2016 GT3RS low mile $205K, and other values at Barrett Jackson
01-22-2018, 11:22 PM
#47
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So an .1RS is special but a .2GT3 is sort of special, not really, your words not mine. If we take "value" out of the equation and plan to DD and occasionally track, what's the real world difference, not much if any. I believe those looking for long term keepers, why would you want someone else's build ? If it's a keeper I want the exact spec, no comprises. Back to "value" out of the gate the RS is 50K more than a comparable GT3, so one could argue the value is with the GT3 and 50K in the wallet.
.2 GT3 is sort fo special right now simply because of the motorsport derived 4.0 engine, well until the .2 GT3RS hits that is. There is a reason why Porsche position the GT3 below the GT3RS.
For long term keeper cars, none of the GT3s ever kept their value. If that's what you mean.
01-22-2018, 11:25 PM
#48
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Moot point too, they spent 90% of the time in 4th gear, not like they are changing gears a lot of time during a race.
01-23-2018, 01:32 AM
#49
I watched the RS go for $225.5k (205 + 10%) - could've easily sold for higher. An ACR went for ~220k + 10%. Crazy buyers out there. A 2014 F12 had a highest bid price of 270k plus 10% - $297k (don't think it sold wtf!).
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
01-23-2018, 01:39 AM
#50
Originally Posted by Biglife
I watched the RS go for $225.5k (205 + 10%) - could've easily sold for higher. An ACR went for ~220k + 10%. Crazy buyers out there. A 2014 F12 had a highest bid price of 270k plus 10% - $297k (don't think it sold wtf!).
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
01-23-2018, 09:16 AM
#51
I watched the RS go for $225.5k (205 + 10%) - could've easily sold for higher. An ACR went for ~220k + 10%. Crazy buyers out there. A 2014 F12 had a highest bid price of 270k plus 10% - $297k (don't think it sold wtf!).
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
I'm getting ready to sell my Purple .1RS to prepare for delivery of a 720. Trying to figure out a reasonable price now, seems they're all over the map. Tough call, but this thread is helpful
01-23-2018, 10:27 AM
#52
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If you're friendly with a dealer, you can do a dealer curtesy trade if you have a car you're selling to save that, and then can ALSO pay for a CPO. That's what I did. So I technically paid MSRP plus the 2800 or whatever for CPO. Pretty good for a 2020 unlimited mile warranty haha.
01-23-2018, 11:22 AM
#53
I'm actually surprised the RS at BJ brought as much as it did considering that it's hardly the ideal venue for selling one . I have my delivery mile (24) car with somewhat similar spec for sale ( silver /red and radio delete ) and figure it will probably end up going for what I paid for it with the tax . Like all cars miles , condition , spec and color all play a big role in selling prices along with finding the right buyer . I think these cars will be fine in the long term - it's a lot of technology and exotic materials for the money .
01-23-2018, 09:06 PM
#54
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Right now the time frame is too short, there is no meaningful conclusion one can draw on pricing. The GT3 just came out and the .1 GT3RS is also sort of new.
It doesn't matter if the .1 GT3RS were made in enormous numbers. It is an RS, period, Porsche only put that name on really special cars and that name has been with Porsche for over 40 years.
A GT3 is just that, a GT3. Sort of special but not really and it only start appearing from the 996 generation onwards.
I have the current gen GT3 in manual. It is nice and holds it's value for about a year. Then it will continue down hill with no chance of getting back up like every other cars.
An RS will have it's ups and downs depending on the current financial climate, it will fall through the MSRP too but long term, RS is the one to get for holding values.
For performance, a .2 GT3 might be faster than the .1 GT3RS, but that's mostly due to newer tires. But a GT3 will never be as rewarding to drive on track than a GT3RS, especially the current ones with manual transmission. With the PDK in manual mode, it's the closest thing one can drive on track next to a proper Cup car.
Going through the gates is fun one the street, I enjoy that too, but on track where one wants to squeeze that last .1 second off somewhere, nothing beats a paddle shift car, that's why no current race cars from any manufacturers have a stick anymore.
It doesn't matter if the .1 GT3RS were made in enormous numbers. It is an RS, period, Porsche only put that name on really special cars and that name has been with Porsche for over 40 years.
A GT3 is just that, a GT3. Sort of special but not really and it only start appearing from the 996 generation onwards.
I have the current gen GT3 in manual. It is nice and holds it's value for about a year. Then it will continue down hill with no chance of getting back up like every other cars.
An RS will have it's ups and downs depending on the current financial climate, it will fall through the MSRP too but long term, RS is the one to get for holding values.
For performance, a .2 GT3 might be faster than the .1 GT3RS, but that's mostly due to newer tires. But a GT3 will never be as rewarding to drive on track than a GT3RS, especially the current ones with manual transmission. With the PDK in manual mode, it's the closest thing one can drive on track next to a proper Cup car.
Going through the gates is fun one the street, I enjoy that too, but on track where one wants to squeeze that last .1 second off somewhere, nothing beats a paddle shift car, that's why no current race cars from any manufacturers have a stick anymore.
01-23-2018, 09:53 PM
#55
For me - Barrett Jackson is too much of a circus show. Too many bidders approach their bids as who has the biggest *****. Also, the cattle call style of auction drives me nuts. I prefer Gooding, RM and Bonhams. Yes they all have the 10%/10% for buyers and sellers. Way better cars, and there were some deals to be had at Gooding and Bonhams. At bonhams I was sitting with a friend who manages his clients auto collections. He had one client there that purchased the 550A Spyder for $5.1M all in. Anyway - that was a fun process being there for that one.
01-24-2018, 02:26 AM
#56
For me - Barrett Jackson is too much of a circus show. Too many bidders approach their bids as who has the biggest *****. Also, the cattle call style of auction drives me nuts. I prefer Gooding, RM and Bonhams. Yes they all have the 10%/10% for buyers and sellers. Way better cars, and there were some deals to be had at Gooding and Bonhams. At bonhams I was sitting with a friend who manages his clients auto collections. He had one client there that purchased the 550A Spyder for $5.1M all in. Anyway - that was a fun process being there for that one.
I grew up in cattle auctions so it's music to my ears at BJ. The other auctions are fun and I enjoy the British banter to the bidders (dad is from Mississippi/ mom from London), however when POS #2 is pumped for a $50k all-in sale @ 20 minutes and the McLaren F1 is running 70 cars later - screw that.. I lose interest and think the auctioneer needs to be replaced by a cattleman. At least they'll drop a hammer and set the tone instead of giving 10 minutes of last and final calls. (Bonhams Pebble '18) RM seemed to have a good blend btw talking about the cars and keeping the energy in the room with dropping the hammer.
The environment and quality of cars is defiantly more appealing to me at RM/Gooding etc.
---Looking ahead---
I find there is a good crowd for euro cars probably higher than normal distribution of demographics for sure at BJ. As the collectors born in the 70/80's gain traction I feel you'll see more great european cars offered at BJ. All have +/-. Hanging in McLaren Scottsdale world shields the carnival atmosphere a bit. Look forward to next year and hope to see some RL'ers at our McLaren booth just come Porsche undercover
while we fly the Union Jack.Onto Amelia Island! Anyone going?
01-24-2018, 11:42 AM
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01-24-2018, 11:54 AM
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01-24-2018, 08:55 PM
#60
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auction is just that.. auction
in some part of the world, we "create" numbers for the auctions.
what you see is not what you see.
dont be so gullible.
in some part of the world, we "create" numbers for the auctions.
what you see is not what you see.
dont be so gullible.