991.2 GT3 manual tranny - why so few reviews?
01-23-2018, 06:49 PM
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Winged... just personal preference... but I must admit I'd like the chrome window trim too.. we'll see,... the modification bug is strong within me. 
01-24-2018, 01:12 PM
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While The world of sports cars has never been more saturated then today, remember that in production today there are maybe one or two naturally aspirated high revving engines left, the GT3 and the V 12 Ferrari... And there is only one left with a manual transmission.
ONLY ONE MANUAL NA HIGH REV CAR IN PRODUCTION IN THE WORLD. The gt3.2, which will have only ONE year of production, 2018.
That is no small fact, and it will keep this car extremely relevant for the for seeable future.
I'll also add something else. I get to drive almost every major sports car in the world on track. GT3RS/488/P1/CGT/918/F12-TDF/675LT/911R/458Speciale/SCG003 (development driver).. I could go on. And while I'm not wealthy enough to own these cars, I have had the incredible honor and experience of being able to drive each one very hard, with no restraint or consideration of value. I was able to live with a few for extended periods and high mileage trips across states. It enabled me to look at each one of these machines objectively and critically. This enabled me, in my own mind at least, to decide with certainty from experience which one I would want to own. Of all of these, if I could only have one, a keeper forever, there is absolutely only ONE which I would want in my garage, the 911R. And even the R I found slightly lacking for one reason, a relatively disappointing top end.. it went flat.. but it still won hands done overall in my mind.. when I could pick I let others take the hypercars, I would take the old school low power (comparatively) manual 911R.
All the other wunder cars were exciting but flawed, more a novelty than a comprehensive package. Or too much to enjoy in regular moments on road at normal speeds.. really only at home in extreme situations like track or illegal road speeds. All in my mind quickly become surpassed technology, falling in the shadows of whatever car comes next.. always what's next?
The 911R was never like this, always my go-to. Now, I can't have the 911R but I can the next best thing.. the manual 911 GT3.2. And luckily, porsche fixed the ONE issue I experienced with the 911R, namely the weak-ish top end. How lucky are we???... mere mortals with the very pinnacle of perfect sports car development??!!!!.
I say this with absolute certainty and excitement that the only car of these I can afford, is actually the only one I would want to have... the GT3.2 Manual. I can buy it KNOWING, just KNOWING, that I've driven almost everything the world has to offer and that this is my true CHOICE!
Hopefully this does not come across as braggadocious, that's really not my intent... I stay relatively quiet about stuff like this normally, And I'm not really a Porsche fanboy. I just think that this car is incredibly unique not only in today's environment, but for a long long time to come. The sum of its parts is so well measured, so ON POINT, that to surpass its ownership experience and driving engagement, especially in today's turbo flappy paddle environment.. will be IMPOSSIBLE.
Rejoice GT3.2 manual owners, because everyone of us who is getting an allocation is indeed the luckiest of all sports car owners. I am 100% certain of this, and I feel that lucky.
ONLY ONE MANUAL NA HIGH REV CAR IN PRODUCTION IN THE WORLD. The gt3.2, which will have only ONE year of production, 2018.
That is no small fact, and it will keep this car extremely relevant for the for seeable future.
I'll also add something else. I get to drive almost every major sports car in the world on track. GT3RS/488/P1/CGT/918/F12-TDF/675LT/911R/458Speciale/SCG003 (development driver).. I could go on. And while I'm not wealthy enough to own these cars, I have had the incredible honor and experience of being able to drive each one very hard, with no restraint or consideration of value. I was able to live with a few for extended periods and high mileage trips across states. It enabled me to look at each one of these machines objectively and critically. This enabled me, in my own mind at least, to decide with certainty from experience which one I would want to own. Of all of these, if I could only have one, a keeper forever, there is absolutely only ONE which I would want in my garage, the 911R. And even the R I found slightly lacking for one reason, a relatively disappointing top end.. it went flat.. but it still won hands done overall in my mind.. when I could pick I let others take the hypercars, I would take the old school low power (comparatively) manual 911R.
All the other wunder cars were exciting but flawed, more a novelty than a comprehensive package. Or too much to enjoy in regular moments on road at normal speeds.. really only at home in extreme situations like track or illegal road speeds. All in my mind quickly become surpassed technology, falling in the shadows of whatever car comes next.. always what's next?
The 911R was never like this, always my go-to. Now, I can't have the 911R but I can the next best thing.. the manual 911 GT3.2. And luckily, porsche fixed the ONE issue I experienced with the 911R, namely the weak-ish top end. How lucky are we???... mere mortals with the very pinnacle of perfect sports car development??!!!!.
I say this with absolute certainty and excitement that the only car of these I can afford, is actually the only one I would want to have... the GT3.2 Manual. I can buy it KNOWING, just KNOWING, that I've driven almost everything the world has to offer and that this is my true CHOICE!
Hopefully this does not come across as braggadocious, that's really not my intent... I stay relatively quiet about stuff like this normally, And I'm not really a Porsche fanboy. I just think that this car is incredibly unique not only in today's environment, but for a long long time to come. The sum of its parts is so well measured, so ON POINT, that to surpass its ownership experience and driving engagement, especially in today's turbo flappy paddle environment.. will be IMPOSSIBLE.
Rejoice GT3.2 manual owners, because everyone of us who is getting an allocation is indeed the luckiest of all sports car owners. I am 100% certain of this, and I feel that lucky.
01-24-2018, 04:04 PM
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01-24-2018, 04:07 PM
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01-24-2018, 04:10 PM
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01-24-2018, 04:10 PM
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01-24-2018, 05:03 PM
#71
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Seems like the suspected failure of the GT4 manual is the friction weld on the 3rd gear input shaft? I'd hope Porsche implemented a design change there. But isn't the MT in the .2 GT3 the same as the one in the 911R? Are these the same as the GT4 MT?
01-24-2018, 05:08 PM
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The GT3 and GT4 gearboxes are setup to have a similar shift feel, but I'm pretty sure they're totally unrelated. The GT4 one is adapted from an Audi gearbox and the GT3 one is from the 911R and was specially built for that car to use a PDK outer case, AFAIk...
01-24-2018, 06:02 PM
#73
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Check out what Paolo Garella introduces at Geneva.. will be a sportscar which will occupy a niche which i think will be significantly different enough than all the other hyper cars which are out there. I received a few PM's about it and connected the interested people who may be attending the show to set up direct meetings to view the project directly with Paolo...
my hunch is that the time of SUPER-FAST, complex hypercars has passed somewhat. The "bugatti chiron" projects of the world are just not as interesting anymore, and are going to give way to more creative niche projects. These will become MORE about getting true enjoyment from real world driving situations, vs just show-off objects for Montecarlo Casino, or someone's garage obsession. The very low slung, hard to really enjoy 1000hp+ monsters aren't really as fun to own as people think. Yes I AM a fanboy of Paolo Garella and all the incredible Sultan of Brunei cars he built, I collected magazine clippings of him as a child and am honored to know him.
http://www.paologarella.com/life.php?id=13#gallery1
However, I can say objectively that he has a real pulse on the sportscar market having been involved directly, or in the background of so many of the most unique sportscar projects ever created over the decades.. Who else was commissioned to stuff a Williams F1 paddle transmission into an 80's Testarossa?? If you check out the link it's scarcely believable the breadth of projects:
http://www.paologarella.com/cars_in_life.php
Ferrari -brunei 288 conversions, all the Ferrari FX cars, 456 Venice (wagon conversions), Special F50's,
Rolls - Hyperion, SUV's,
SCG - P4/5, P4/5c, Dino restoration, Modulo,
not to mention infinite one-offs like Stratos, the J-cars... Apollo.. the list goes for days, and some projects he can't even talk about publicly.
I say this to point out that today, the machines he creates he does with purpose. He's seen it all and so what he spends his time on now is both exceptionally executed and critically considered. I'm looking forward to seeing how the market reacts to this ultra-niche manufacturer who is daring to take the road less travelled with the new stuff coming out at Geneva.
stay tuned.
01-24-2018, 07:13 PM
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^ More awesome info by way of your post Alex. Thank you!
More of the same and stealth /hidden info from you is always welcome... as is “bobbling’
More of the same and stealth /hidden info from you is always welcome... as is “bobbling’
