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#76
The 991.2 GT3 is like the last year (2006) of the BMW E46 M3, which overlapped the e90 3-series cars (2004-) by a year or two and which was the last great M3, IMO. Clean, classic, light and balanced, 3.2L High-revving NA, 6-Speed Getrag manual only. I remember wanting one so bad back then and continuing to play with the configurator online thinking even the styling is so much more attractive than the new e90 3-series.
In the years since, BMW have tried all manner of new takes on M3, from brawny V8 to boosted 6. But none have been as good of a modern interpretation of the original M3.
I don’t see any reason Porsche wouldn’t produce a 991 GT3 for a little while after it already starts 992 series cars from lower in the range.
Porsche have already demonstrated with the 991.2 non-GT models and the entire 718 range that it’s capable of making a new version of a car that’s less desirable than the outgoing model, in the name of “progress”. I see no reason why it won’t make the same mistake with the GT3, but maybe they’ll surprise us.
My bet is on the 991.2 GT3 manual being the swan song of cars like this, and therefore the one to have.
In the years since, BMW have tried all manner of new takes on M3, from brawny V8 to boosted 6. But none have been as good of a modern interpretation of the original M3.
I don’t see any reason Porsche wouldn’t produce a 991 GT3 for a little while after it already starts 992 series cars from lower in the range.
Porsche have already demonstrated with the 991.2 non-GT models and the entire 718 range that it’s capable of making a new version of a car that’s less desirable than the outgoing model, in the name of “progress”. I see no reason why it won’t make the same mistake with the GT3, but maybe they’ll surprise us.
My bet is on the 991.2 GT3 manual being the swan song of cars like this, and therefore the one to have.
#77
Burning Brakes
the only problem i see with overlapping production is the retooling they have to do for the 992 which might make it impossible to build the two in parallel .. just a thought
#78
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no big news for us EU guys.
as written multiple times: in EU the whole GT game is stopped within 01.Sept.2018.
Will P bring a N/A engine which will fulfill Euro6c? I think so.
Will P bring high end turbo engines (somhow similar with the GT2RS) with Euro6c? for sure.
as written multiple times: in EU the whole GT game is stopped within 01.Sept.2018.
Will P bring a N/A engine which will fulfill Euro6c? I think so.
Will P bring high end turbo engines (somhow similar with the GT2RS) with Euro6c? for sure.
#79
They have done it in the past, (997 turbo’s and 991 base/S). The line supports multiple models/chassis today.
#80
I debated wing or no wing for ages and ages. I hope to have a 3RS or 2rs as a stablemate so went Touring.... build still. It locked though lol
#81
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Usually special versions of the old platform (GT3, Turbo S, Speedster, etc.) are built while they are making the basic Carrera of the new version.
#82
Race Car
I think they have had two different 911 platforms built simultaneously since MY1989 (3.2 Carrera and 964) and at every changeover since.
Usually special versions of the old platform (GT3, Turbo S, Speedster, etc.) are built while they are making the basic Carrera of the new version.
Usually special versions of the old platform (GT3, Turbo S, Speedster, etc.) are built while they are making the basic Carrera of the new version.
#83
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i think not at all. or maybe just with 1 month maybe less - if i compare the "first registration dates". and we think about press cars, 0 production and so on.
07+08.2011 was the production i guess to remember for the 997 4.0 (launched 28.April 2011)
10.2011 the first production for 991 (launched 2011 on 15 September IAA)
07+08.2011 was the production i guess to remember for the 997 4.0 (launched 28.April 2011)
10.2011 the first production for 991 (launched 2011 on 15 September IAA)
#84
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I know the 996 GT3 and Turbo S were built for MY2005 along with 997 Carrera S. I think MY1998 had both widebody 993 Carrera S and C4S (and maybe Turbo S) while they were building the first water-cooled 996 Carreras (996 started from MY1998 in RoW though only from 1999 in USA), etc...
#85
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According to Wikipedia, the 997 Turbo Cab and Turbo S was the last of the 997's built (2010-2013). Maybe some 997 were MY2013??? Maybe an error, but I do believe 2012 production at minimum...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_997
991 started production in 2011 with MY2012...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_997
991 started production in 2011 with MY2012...
#86
Is it at all conceivable that Porsche likes profits AND they only build the .2RS for 8 months?
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#87
I don't mean to sound argumentative here ; but, as far as I can tell, the "Model Year" is, simply, a period adopted by manufacturers a long time ago and retained by them as, more or less, a convention. IMO, they are under no obligation to follow a model year convention and there is nothing to prevent a manufacturer from dropping that convention if it suits their needs. I mentioned the 918 as one example where the "model year" convention seems to have been ignored.
#89
I think they have had two different 911 platforms built simultaneously since MY1989 (3.2 Carrera and 964) and at every changeover since.
Usually special versions of the old platform (GT3, Turbo S, Speedster, etc.) are built while they are making the basic Carrera of the new version.
Usually special versions of the old platform (GT3, Turbo S, Speedster, etc.) are built while they are making the basic Carrera of the new version.
None of this from the cleaning ladies, but how about they just keep loading the all you can eat 991.2 GT3 Buffet until the line disappears....that'l work for all sides.
#90
Racer