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Old 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by signes
^ They were all 2016 model year but production started in mid 2015, finished Dec 2016
Right. So generally, half of those built in 2016 would normally have been 2017 model year cars right? And those cars build in November/December weren't delivered to customers until early 2017.

I'm just saying that declaring that there will not be 2019 model year cars doesn't necessarily mean they're making any less of them than they always intended. Right?
Old 01-08-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Interesting - for some reason, I thought cars built from the Fall of the calendar year are coded as MY for the following year. I guess this was more about marketing than a requirement?
correct, recall late GT3RS were 2016 even though they were built in the fall.
Old 01-08-2018, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
Right. So generally, half of those built in 2016 would normally have been 2017 model year cars right? And those cars build in November/December weren't delivered to customers until early 2017.

I'm just saying that declaring that there will not be 2019 model year cars doesn't necessarily mean they're making any less of them than they always intended. Right?
The vagaries of "allocation" are not my strong suit but my dealer did say in passing that the "upcoming total allocation would be larger than the last".
Old 01-08-2018, 05:02 PM
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:04 PM
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I still think its more difficult to get a Rao's reservation (NYC) than a GT3 allocation.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
I still think its more difficult to get a Rao's reservation (NYC) than a GT3 allocation.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RF
I can confirm the 991.2 GT3 RS will be announced in February. I am getting the first one my dealer gets as they could not allocate me a 991.2 GT3.

I have to spec it in February I was told.

They were not able to tell me the specs yet. Either they don’t know or will not or not allowed to. Delivery June/July.

seems right with a short production cycle with the 992 coming.

that's interesting. i placed a deposit with my dealer for a .2RS almost 2 years ago and am first on their list. however, i am actually more interested in an allocation to build a stripper GT3 Touring as i would would love to daily drive that car and keep it forever.

i currently have a GT4 as a track car and 991.2C2S Cab as my daily driver. i just can't see myself using the new RS as a daily driver or as a track car. for me it would be a lot of $$$ tied up in a weekend car, but man it would be an epic car.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Interesting - for some reason, I thought cars built from the Fall of the calendar year are coded as MY for the following year. I guess this was more about marketing than a requirement?
Not necessarily true. When the Cayman R came out in Apr 11 it was classified a MY12 and that was with regular Caymans still being built as MY11s. Since Euro6 comes in Sept this may just be a way for PAG to continue production for ROW/US, not including EURO, to meet demand and to skirt the regulatory regs. Remember that MY is mainly a US thing and NOT ROW.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GrantG
Interesting - for some reason, I thought cars built from the Fall of the calendar year are coded as MY for the following year. I guess this was more about marketing than a requirement?
Typically they are, but in the case of the RS they continued to build under the 2016 MY for some reason (maybe emissions related or not wanting to re-certify for a partial new model year.)

Originally Posted by Wild Weasel
Right. So generally, half of those built in 2016 would normally have been 2017 model year cars right? And those cars build in November/December weren't delivered to customers until early 2017.

I'm just saying that declaring that there will not be 2019 model year cars doesn't necessarily mean they're making any less of them than they always intended. Right?
As I recall, production volumes ramped in Fall of 2016 so quite a lot of cars were delivered at the end of 2016 and into 2017. Assuming they build to the end of December, then there is the potential to build a fair amount of cars. Trick will be the mix between GT3, 2RS, 3RS and any other special that comes along. Assuming SOP for the .2 3RS in March/April, that would match Chris's info of up to 8 month production run.

I also find it interesting that GT3s are being delivered earlier in many cases than expected. The same happened for the end of the .1 GT3 and .1 RS, both of which had healthy production volumes. If all of this is true, I expect the production ratio of GT:non-GT cars in Stuttgart will be quite high for the entirety of CY2018.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
I still think its more difficult to get a Rao's reservation (NYC) than a GT3 allocation.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrence
Well, I just got an email from my dealer that they have officially received word from PCNA today that all MY 2019 GT3 and GT2RS will now be MY2018 because, wait for it..... "MY2019 will not be offered for these models"!
So what?

Are you leaping from the term "one model year" to infer only one production year (or less) for those cars?

The 918 was, I believe, labeled one model year (2015) but was produced over 21 months.

Think it can happen again?

Maybe a Porsche head fake goin on. To keep the prices up. They need it, I think.
Old 01-08-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrence
If you look at my previous posts, I have suggested time and time again that 991.2 GT3 may come to an end at the year of 2018 as evident by news from magazines and also some member's production date of a MY2018 car as late as December 2018.

Well, I just got an email from my dealer that they have officially received word from PCNA today that all MY 2019 GT3 and GT2RS will now be MY2018 because, wait for it..... "MY2019 will not be offered for these models"!

Hate to say I told you so, but go get whatever you can get your hands on right now! I am never selling my GT3! LOL!
Wasn't there a member who said he had a January '19 build in the the other thread? Wonder if that was official.
Old 01-08-2018, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fuddman
So what?

Are you leaping from the term "one model year" to infer only one production year (or less) for those cars?

The 918 was, I believe, labeled one model year (2015) but was produced over 21 months.

Think it can happen again?

Maybe a Porsche head fake goin on. To keep the prices up. They need it, I think.
A manufacturer cannot actually manufacture a car in 2019 and call it a MY 2018 car. I think the OP's point is that, if this is true, all the people saying that they will keep building these into 2019 were wrong. If this is true, manufacturing of these cars would have to stop by 12/31/18. That's all.

The good news is, if this is true, those of us who have summer builds that were possibly going to be MY 2019 cars have just avoided the potential model year price increase.
Old 01-08-2018, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shaytun
Wasn't there a member who said he had a January '19 build in the the other thread? Wonder if that was official.
No.

Originally Posted by Homsy94
I just got notification from my dealer! December allocation for Jan 2019 delivery at MSRP!
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