FourT6and2

Too much what? Like too powerful? Too sporty? Too much of a track car? I do see a lot of GT3s for sale used with like 500 miles, 700 miles, etc. And I wonder if people couldn't handle them or they were too much for the street or just flippers.

pimpinon

Driving in the city is not too bad, just have to scout the area beforehand for possible low areas to avoid.

Carlsen in Menlo Park has an absolutely great build in the showroom. If you have good negotiating skills you might get it down to just little over MSRP.

Call Quibelan for more info.

oceancarrera

Mercedes cars are like the way Cadillac's used to be. It's more about 'I'm a somebody in my Mercedes' That's why they keep changing the name or number on each car each year so you can be with the latest 'rarest' Mercedes. After a year or two that model is passe. Fantastic quality and workmanship for people who just want be admired or noticed.
It's different for Porsche enthusiast. It's all about road/track performance PLUS being admired or noticed in a smaller percentage.
Still you can get some great cars from Mercedes/AMG with an extended warranty of course.

F1CrazyDriver

Harsh ride. Too low.

The too low i can understand as US driveways for the most part are poorly engineered in slope and never consistent in the grading.
In SF that would be my only worry, for me to you. I also think the GT3 is the wrong car for a lot of people. More then they can chew on(having patience and planning while driving, most like to drive with giving zero fks). IMO.

Me personally i learned to do a proper angle entrance to a driveway if i must and i'm not shy of bottle necking everyone as i'm Ingres/egress from a driveway, but i usually parallel park, my preference.

Archimedes

Carlsen and 'just a little over MSRP' in the same sentence... stop it, you're killin' me..

pimpinon

YMMV.

Akunob

grendel88

Get whichever car you think you will drive the most. One of the unspoken truths about GT3 resale is mileage so the more you drive the car, the less you can resale it for. Other cars are also affected by this, but doesn't seem as steep, mainly because other cars depreciate faster. The last thing you want is to think about how much your car is worth on the resale market as opposed to just driving it. Since this is your entry into this segment of vehicles, I just want to put out there some of the random thoughts that will be part of your ownership experience. If you care about value before you have bought the car, you will care twice as much once you own it, especially if you know that there is a strong resale market. These thoughts have a tendency to pop whenever you are not driving the car. One example is that the GT3 is super low and while front lip is cheap and replaceable, you will scrape in a lot of places in the city so it will be one of those stupid things lingering in your mind constantly about where you are going to drive the car and if it will scrape.

You may have none of these thoughts hopefully and truly enjoy the car and it will fit your needs 100%. But I wanted to give an alternative view to the ownership of this kind of vehicle in the Bay Area.

Good luck!

promocop

No. I had two and finally gave up as I wanted a DD Went for a Targa 4S Very happy

oceancarrera

You can tell if a car is fun to drive on trade in. They have a good amount of mileage on a short amounts of time. GT3's have low mileage trade in's. I believe it's because it's much more of a raw car then a smooth GT speedster as the 991TTS is and the motor problems too. The AMG GTS Mercedes rides ruff or stiff. Has a short suspension travel.

FourT6and2

Thanks for the insight. Whichever car I go with, I'm viewing it as a throw-away purchase. Meaning, it's not an investment. It's a toy. But it still needs to be somewhat practice considering I live in a city. Even though I plan on driving the car OUT of the city, you still need to drive THROUGH it on your way in/out. So it needs to be somewhat comfortable. I don't want/need a dedicated track car, if that makes sense. As far as value goes, I'm buying a car to drive the **** out of

The new GT3 has motor problems?

And the AMG GTR is quite different from the GTS. Different suspension. Much improved. It rides softer in comfort mode and due to the additional levels of damping, it can still get nice and stiff for track use.

FourT6and2

Ok, I just went to check out the GT3 at Carlsen.

Guys... as soon as I walked in and saw it there, I knew it was the one. The AMG GTR is sick. But the GT3 is something else. I knew instantly it's the one. Chalk wasn't really one of the colors I was interested in, but it looks great in person. I also know what y'all were talking about when y'all said it can be too much car for some. It is a proper sports car. The bucket seats, while gorgeous with the carbon fiber and leather, are quite... rigid. I'm a tall guy and I would prefer a little more angle to the back. So I would opt for the 4-way or 18-way seats. I need to be able to recline a bit.

Everything else about the car was damn near perfect. The ADM is high. But even with that, it's about the same price as the AMG GTR. So not outside what I'm willing to spend. However, the seats are a deal breaker. I don't want to buy a car like this and then not want to drive it because my back hurts.

So... I will hunt for an allocation I can configure. I'll follow up on the leads I found and see what the timeline looks like. Outside that, I'll see what I can find on lots.

This car is really something. Breathtaking in person.

sampelligrino

Hahaha. Carlsen is a funny dealership. Called and inquired about GT3 allocations 6 months ago and they laughed in my face and showed me the door without giving me a real answer. Fast forward 6 months later when I am just swinging by the dealership to see what is in the showroom when they ask me what I was interested in, and said nothing as I have a GT3 on the way. The SA told me he wished I would have reached out once he found out I paid an ADM as I guess they kept their non VIPs allocations and sold to highest bidder.

They were nice enough to also refuse courtesy delivery of my car from Stuttgart without even providing a reason, thankfully CJ and Porsche of Fresno were more than happy to help me out.

carcommander

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