BryanCO

ipse dixit

I'm still learning to properly drive a PDK

mooty

no ****, you too?
the i think the right paddle makes car faster right?

ipse dixit

bluehorseshoe

Embarrassingly, I suck at heel/toe shifting.

For the experts out there, what's the best way to master this art? Possible without quality track time?

Oldmxnut

The attraction of a manual is that you cant do it perfectly every time and anytime you do its rare, but the feeling of getting it right makes you want to come back and try to do it again.

manitou202

Get a manual daily driver that you can beat up a bit. Heel toe whenever possible.

I learned on an old Subaru daily driver 15 years ago and I still practice on my daily driver (Mini Cooper) all the time. It's much harder to heel toe at moderate to light braking but you can eventually get it down. It also depends on a lot of factors like pedal spacing, pedal travel, and how fast the engine can change speed. Every car has slightly different technique so even if you master one car, there can be a learning period moving to the next.

Once you get fairly good at it, it's extremely rewarding. I will say that the Rev matching on the .2GT3 is making me lazy though. Some time technology ruins us.

kfmcmahon

I can. I find It's much easier to rev match H -T smoooooothly on track when hard on brakes, as opposed to street driving when you feather the brake.

DRPM

yes I attempt to rev match ....it’s a WIP
i found each of my P cars engines react differnetly, as welll as the pedal set up is different, so it requires diligence and practice.

993 TT throttle is a cable set up while my 996 GT3 and Rs4.0 are by wire.

Chris R.

I can and I continue to practice all the time. I chose a manual GT3 for that exact reason.
Here is a video of one of my race cars (me driving) that shows some good heel/toe work.

evilfij

I used to do it all time, just practice. I am not an expert, but this is what I did. When you are starting out, just blip the throttle with the clutch in while braking to see how much you need for a given rpm increase. Don’t worry about the shift part as focusing on the blip without a shift prevents you from money shifting. Do the same but skipping the braking. Practice the blip and the shift. Start easy, 6th to fifth. In your head you should have what rpm you are shooting for and how big of a blip you need to get there. Remember the second you depress the clutch the car starts to slow and the rpm starts to fall so take that into account. Then put it all together. After you practice a bunch on the street it becomes second nature.

I am looking forward to rev matching function as I am physically limited in what I can comfortably do.

Spyerx

I’m pretty good at it.

GrantG

kfmcmahon

First, start with the car OFF, in your driveway, just repeating the sequence of steps...like 500 times or so, until you no longer have to think about the sequence of steps..it just becomes second nature.
Then, do it with the car on, but not moving (i.e. car not in gear, but you can get a feeling for and hear what each RPM blip--200,500,1K, etc is like) just pretend to move the gear lever with the blip...again like 500 times.
Then, go to an empty mall parking lot and repeat the sequence for real (ie moving the gear lever) at different speed and different brake presses, RPM blips etc..like 500 times

some people (like me) roll the side of their right foot sideways (ankle inversion) instead of use the "heel" of their foot to pivot to the throttle...it allows better control of brake pressure (for me) so you don't accidentally add to much or too little brake so less jerky braking...I also use the ball of my foot for braking rather than the "toe" than the name suggests.


Step 1: Apply the brakes with your properly positioned right foot. The braking action continues throughout the remaining four steps.

Step 2: Depress the clutch with your left foot.

Step 3: While still on the brakes, roll your right foot to the right and onto the throttle pedal to raise (or "blip") the engine's speed (rpm) to match the expected wheel speed.

Step 4: Simultaneously move the transmission shifter into the next-lower gear.

Step 5: Release the clutch. If braking continues, you can repeat steps 2-5 again for another downshift until the correct gear is finally achieved.

evilfij

Does everyone go down through the gears, or do you skip some? 4th to second etc.