Front Axle Lift - Necessary or Not?
08-16-2018, 12:04 PM
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The lowest ground clearance GT3 I ever owned was a 996 Mk1 CS 15 yrs ago, used to have to put the splitter back on once a week but the 991 RS's ground clearance is much better so I have purposely no lift. It's just something else to go wrong, which they frequently do as years pass. As for resale, I don't buy my car for the next guy.
Virtually impossible to find a right spec 991 TTS Mk2 to replace my Mk1 TTS as everyone as has been told by their salesman a sunroof is essential for resale. Is it still the 1970's?!
Virtually impossible to find a right spec 991 TTS Mk2 to replace my Mk1 TTS as everyone as has been told by their salesman a sunroof is essential for resale. Is it still the 1970's?!
08-16-2018, 02:46 PM
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08-16-2018, 04:09 PM
#63
It's not really spec'ing for the next owner but spec'ing to maximize both resale value and market of potential buyers. I hear that term thrown around a lot 'spec'ing for the next guy etc.' but its really about looking to maximize the ease, speed and value upon future resale. That is why some spec PCCBs but take them off and replace with cast iron rotors (and put the PCCBs back on for resale). Not only is consuming PCCBs prohibitively expensive for track use but it a highly desired option for DD, and canyon drivers, so having it on the car expands the potential buyer pool to non-track guys and also helps retain value.
08-16-2018, 04:28 PM
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It's not really spec'ing for the next owner but spec'ing to maximize both resale value and market of potential buyers. I hear that term thrown around a lot 'spec'ing for the next guy etc.' but its really about looking to maximize the ease, speed and value upon future resale. That is why some spec PCCBs but take them off and replace with cast iron rotors (and put the PCCBs back on for resale). Not only is consuming PCCBs prohibitively expensive for track use but it a highly desired option for DD, and canyon drivers, so having it on the car expands the potential buyer pool to non-track guys and also helps retain value.
I accidentally ended up with FAL in order that pre-locked for ED. I was going to remove it. But hey, if at resale it will make sale easier because that is what the buyer wants, great. Do I think I will get my money back on it through extended pool of buyers? No.
08-16-2018, 04:50 PM
#65
After driving GT and other Porsche sports cars for a while now, I am programmed to look for bumps and inclines and attack at an angle via muscle memory. Most of the time this works well. Very rarely will get a minor scrape, but I considered that this may happen even with a lift. I bet many scrape even with the lift because they forget to press the button in time or are distracted. Have heard this from a few people with a lift (and a chuckle).
I took a pass on my order.
I believe there are aftermarket solutions as well.
I took a pass on my order.
I believe there are aftermarket solutions as well.
08-16-2018, 05:51 PM
#66
Agree. It's just that, often, the actual future cash back seems very questionable. Ease of sale, absolutely. But 'must have' vs 'don't need' FAL both seem fairly large groups. And at that point, getting the full cost + tax + time value of the expense back, seems questionable at best.
I accidentally ended up with FAL in order that pre-locked for ED. I was going to remove it. But hey, if at resale it will make sale easier because that is what the buyer wants, great. Do I think I will get my money back on it through extended pool of buyers? No.
I accidentally ended up with FAL in order that pre-locked for ED. I was going to remove it. But hey, if at resale it will make sale easier because that is what the buyer wants, great. Do I think I will get my money back on it through extended pool of buyers? No.
08-16-2018, 06:28 PM
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In Atlanta and use it all the time...development where I live changed the drainage and put a drain before entrance which if I didn't have FAL I would scrape every time.....happy I checked the box on this...
08-16-2018, 07:44 PM
#68
These cars are for enjoyment. Simple as that. One thing I hate the most about driving these cars is worrying about scraping on a driveway. I know it's just a $200 piece, and I know I'm driving a car that's an inch from the ground, but I just hate the sound of scrapping. Does it kill me when it happens? Absolutely not. I scraped my lip in the first 50 miles of ownership and it didn't bother me a bit after it happened. Yet, I still want to avoid scraping every time I enter/exit a driveway. So having a way to reduce this stress is worth the $2k to me. And because of this, I get a surprising amount of satisfaction when I can raise the car. Makes me feel like I'm in a lowrider, lol. I know it sounds stupid but hey, whatever tickles your pickle right? Again, these cars are for enjoyment.
08-17-2018, 08:01 AM
#71
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Any confirmation that the FAL on the RS is hydraulic ?
(This is on a GT2RS)
08-17-2018, 10:18 AM
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Easily justified by those that chose not to order FAL..... BUT, I doubt anyone who's ordered and used FAL, like me, would ever second guess their choice.
I certainly do not.
I certainly do not.
08-17-2018, 11:13 AM
#73
I don't keep cars more than several years- if that- but had a GT car without FAL and it was definitely a barrier to selling as it seemed like half of the folks who responded saw it as a "must have".
08-17-2018, 12:49 PM
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If nothing else it let’s you go over bumps faster. That alone is worth $2500. Slamming on the brakes and crawling over speed bumps at 1mph is annoying and potentially unsafe.
the low clearance was my least favorite part of my Elise. When I got the Exige it was worse so I removed the front splitter (and fitted all season tires ....).
the low clearance was my least favorite part of my Elise. When I got the Exige it was worse so I removed the front splitter (and fitted all season tires ....).
