Rollcage in the .2 gt3 touring
#16
It's likely that the Touring lacks the correct mounting points for the factory cage so if it is factory you want it will be a bit involving (also I hear it is difficult to buy the rear cage as a spare part)
#17
Why would it likely not have the mounting points? It’s the same ****ing car! It just doesn’t have a wing. Otherwise it’s the same exact car!
#18
There is also a button to make that wing pop up, even if the car is just rolling down the street. So, Archimedes, are you suggesting that the button be pushed so that the big wing stays up and look matched with the roll cage, and not look so confused to be a wingless GT3 yet have a roll cage?
#19
#20
Racer
Thread Starter
One more reason for not having the wing.
The view in the rearview mirror is really bad. For me, its really important to have full control when tracking of whats happening in front of me and in the back. Yes there might definitely be faster cars that i have to let by, especially on the Nordschleife.
The view in the rearview mirror is really bad. For me, its really important to have full control when tracking of whats happening in front of me and in the back. Yes there might definitely be faster cars that i have to let by, especially on the Nordschleife.
#21
Three Wheelin'
#22
Instructor
Check out post #69 in this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...project-5.html
His GT3 is not a Clubsport but according to the owner, it has the mounting points for a roll cage.
His GT3 is not a Clubsport but according to the owner, it has the mounting points for a roll cage.
#23
Rennlist Member
Check out post #69 in this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...project-5.html
His GT3 is not a Clubsport but according to the owner, it has the mounting points for a roll cage.
His GT3 is not a Clubsport but according to the owner, it has the mounting points for a roll cage.
#24
Roll Bars, Not Roll Cage???
OP. There's nothing wrong with putting a roll bars in a GT3 Touring (I hope you meant roll bars, not roll cage - big difference). Some people put a roll bars on a GTS for track use. If you're concerned about your car flipping over, that likelihood is very very slim. Even if it does, the likelihood of the roof collapsing completely is even more rare. Unless you plan to track your car competitively, stock seat belts and chassis are more than enough for HPDE or fun weekends.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. U.S. spec'd cars do not have roll bars mounting points so it's a b*tch to weld and install "proper" roll bars. Since you have Euro chassis, there are mounting points. 991.1 had roll bars mounts regardless of U.S. or Euro, 991.2 is different. They took away the mounting points, at least for the U.S.
If you just want the 6-point belt, maybe companies like Brey Krause will make harness bars like they did for the 997 GT3. They're work of arts.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. U.S. spec'd cars do not have roll bars mounting points so it's a b*tch to weld and install "proper" roll bars. Since you have Euro chassis, there are mounting points. 991.1 had roll bars mounts regardless of U.S. or Euro, 991.2 is different. They took away the mounting points, at least for the U.S.
If you just want the 6-point belt, maybe companies like Brey Krause will make harness bars like they did for the 997 GT3. They're work of arts.
Last edited by Jnosol; 12-18-2017 at 12:51 PM.
#25
Tough crowd. I was actually pondering this weekend this exact setup. Touring with roll cage so I could wear a harness at the track, but go more under the radar the 80% of the time I want to just drive it around town/back roads. No allocation in sight, so all theoretical for me.
#26
Three Wheelin'
To answer your question, yes. An aftermarket roll bar/cage can be installed. My question is why would you? You went through the trouble of spec'ing no wing to avoid the racecar look, but now you want to add a roll bar/cage just to add the racecar look back. If you are going to do minimal tracking, then you are probably fine with airbags and a 3 point seat belt. If you are planning on tracking often, why didn't you get the track version of the car? A cage does not fit the looks of the touring imo. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a car at the track with a roll bar/cage and no wing. I'm all about cohesiveness and throwing a cage in a touring version of a car is silly to me.
#27
Race Director
Originally Posted by Jnosol
OP. There's nothing wrong with putting a roll bars in a GT3 Touring (I hope you meant roll bars, not roll cage - big difference). Unlike the 911R, it doesn't have rear seats so you're not ruining any functionality back there. Some people put a roll bars on a GTS for track use. If you're concerned about your car flipping over, that likelihood is very very slim. Even if it does, the likelihood of the roof collapsing completely is even more rare. Unless you plan to track your car competitively, stock seat belts and chassis are more than enough for HPDE or fun weekends.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. U.S. spec'd cars do not have roll bars mounting points so it's a b*tch to weld and install "proper" roll bars. Since you have Euro chassis, there are mounting points. 991.1 had roll bars mounts regardless of U.S. or Euro, 991.2 is different. They took away the mounting points, at least for the U.S.
If you just want the 6-point belt, maybe companies like Brey Krause will make harness bars like they did for the 997 GT3. They're work of arts.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong. U.S. spec'd cars do not have roll bars mounting points so it's a b*tch to weld and install "proper" roll bars. Since you have Euro chassis, there are mounting points. 991.1 had roll bars mounts regardless of U.S. or Euro, 991.2 is different. They took away the mounting points, at least for the U.S.
If you just want the 6-point belt, maybe companies like Brey Krause will make harness bars like they did for the 997 GT3. They're work of arts.
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#29
To answer your question, yes. An aftermarket roll bar/cage can be installed. My question is why would you? You went through the trouble of spec'ing no wing to avoid the racecar look, but now you want to add a roll bar/cage just to add the racecar look back. If you are going to do minimal tracking, then you are probably fine with airbags and a 3 point seat belt. If you are planning on tracking often, why didn't you get the track version of the car? A cage does not fit the looks of the touring imo. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a car at the track with a roll bar/cage and no wing. I'm all about cohesiveness and throwing a cage in a touring version of a car is silly to me.
As for the cage, a 500HP car on track is going to be seriously fast. I do at least 20 days a year, so safety is important. Safety and looks are two different things. And just cause a car doesn't have a wing, doesn't mean it can't have a rollbar in it. As for the Track vs. Touring, the only difference is the wing. But you should keep your wing - at least you can use it as an excuse for not not giving a point-by cause your wing was blocking your view.
#30
Three Wheelin'
Well in my case, when I'm driving my RS around, kids and street racers constantly pull stupid moves around my car trying to get me to race them or gun it. I like to drive to the track, rather than trailer, and don't want the extra attention from cops or kids. By going wingless I hope people won't come charging up or cutting me off since there's no big wing to catch their attention. I doubt with a tint people will notice my rollbar 2-3 blocks away (a wing they definitely would).
As for the cage, a 500HP car on track is going to be seriously fast. I do at least 20 days a year, so safety is important. Safety and looks are two different things. And just cause a car doesn't have a wing, doesn't mean it can't have a rollbar in it. As for the Track vs. Touring, the only difference is the wing. But you should keep your wing - at least you can use it as an excuse for not not giving a point-by cause your wing was blocking your view.
As for the cage, a 500HP car on track is going to be seriously fast. I do at least 20 days a year, so safety is important. Safety and looks are two different things. And just cause a car doesn't have a wing, doesn't mean it can't have a rollbar in it. As for the Track vs. Touring, the only difference is the wing. But you should keep your wing - at least you can use it as an excuse for not not giving a point-by cause your wing was blocking your view.