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Old 12-03-2017, 05:29 PM
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4.0l. Manual. 1400 cars. Coming in 2nd half of 2018.
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Big yawn across the board, I think.
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
4.0l. Manual. 1400 cars. Coming in 2nd half of 2018.
1400 cars is a good number. Is it a no brainier to trade in a Gt3 Touring for this car if possible?

I think I know the answer, but I do think that if tourings are no longer produced after 2018 the number of GT3Ts may not be more than 1400. I don’t know how many GT3s are made each year but the Touring wasn’t around on 2017 and 2018 I expect tourings represent around 33%. I could be wrong on this but it is my finger in the air guesstimate.

would be a pleasure shifting a manual and hearing the engine with the top down.

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Doing it “right” would be costly but lust worthy. A true Speedster GT with as many carbon panels and weight deletion items as possible. The new carbon fiber wheels, PCCB, and no Speedster humps, just a CF panel to hide a totally mechanical ultra lightweight top.
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
4.0l. Manual. 1400 cars. Coming in 2nd half of 2018.
Thanks for your info, which is usually very solid.

Porsche continues the trend of defining their "drivers cars", as RWD, NA, and manual only.
Glad I don't mind hardtops to get PDK-S with the 4.0 NA engine for my .2 GT3.

1400 sounds like a decent number, hopefully enough so there isn't a total frenzy for these cars. I expect the motor will be the same .2 GT3 motor, although maybe detuned slightly.

Chris, do you have any info on whether this car will come from the GT division? They've got to be busy with the .2 RS, and .2 GT4.
Likely GT division will donate the 4.0L NA motor, but the regular 911 engineers will do the chassis, steering, cosmetics, for the Speedster.

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Originally Posted by Chris3963
4.0l. Manual. 1400 cars. Coming in 2nd half of 2018.

Thx Chris - your info is always appreciated
Old 12-04-2017, 03:47 AM
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Is it more likely that RS & Speedster get a 4.2 and Gt4 gets 4.0, or 3.8 & 4.0?... I cant imagine it will be same engine.
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Is it more likely that RS & Speedster get a 4.2 and Gt4 gets 4.0, or 3.8 & 4.0?... I cant imagine it will be same engine.
Agree that it would be very odd for all these cars to get the same engine.

There is no way the RS or speedster will get a 4.2L NA engine. No street legal 911 variant has ever received a bigger displacement engine that what was in previous 911 variant race cars. Unless we hear an announcement of a 4.2 engine going in the cup, RSR, R etc, then I am 100% certain we won't see a 4.2L NA engine in the RS or speedster.

The RS just got bumped up to 4.0 with the last version, and the RS will get the same displacement for the .2, but with an extra 25-30 HP. Speedster was 3.8L last time, so an increase to 4.0L would be a big deal for that car.

Although we'll see subtly tweaked versions of the .2 GT3 4.0L NA engine in these special 911 variants over the next couple years, I think Porsche will reserve the race derived 4.0L NA engine for the special 911 cars like the GT3, RS, 911R and speedster.

A 3.8L NA engine will go in the .2 GT4 (and possibly Boxster Spyder)
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Is it more likely that RS & Speedster get a 4.2 and Gt4 gets 4.0, or 3.8 & 4.0?... I cant imagine it will be same engine.
Where do you people come up with this **** about a 4.2L engine?
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Speedester will be produced up to 1948 units ... don't ask me why or you're not a Porsche fan
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Originally Posted by Guest89
Where do you people come up with this **** about a 4.2L engine?
another nice friendly post
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Originally Posted by BrntRubber
another nice friendly post
Time and again people make up stuff with no basis in reality and then OTHER people on here parrot the same "info"
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Originally Posted by Guest89
Where do you people come up with this **** about a 4.2L engine?
Originally Posted by Guest89
Time and again people make up stuff with no basis in reality and then OTHER people on here parrot the same "info"
Read my post, I asked which would be more likely as to me, neither make sense. 3.8 is out of production, 4.2 has never been mentioned, and unlikely that no differentiation in engine size between Gt4 and GT3 RS.. trying to see what is most likely outcome. just chill out a bit.
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Read my post, I asked which would be more likely as to me, neither make sense. 3.8 is out of production, 4.2 has never been mentioned, and unlikely that no differentiation in engine size between Gt4 and GT3 RS.. trying to see what is most likely outcome. just chill out a bit.
I'll agree with you that something has to give:

GT4 4.0L 9000 RPM 500 bhp

GT3 4.0L 9000 RPM 500 bhp

GT3 RS 4.0L 9000 RPM 500 bhp

Won't happen

The factory has never offered a flat six with swept volume > 4.0L in any application (although we can agree that they've probably tested it)

The current GTE car has a 4.0L flat six, although the rules permit naturally aspirated engines up to 5.5L (Corvette), so they could go larger. That engine revs well beyond 9000, and the car costs 991K euros.

The .2's updated engines valvetrain will probably be used to make power through revving beyond 9000 instead of displacement increases.
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