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Old 04-17-2018, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
Ahhh yes, the good old non-ADM days.
in only 4 yrs , we Porsche fans have gone from being smugly thankful we didn't have to play the " if you wanna buy a new hot model ( non-supercar ) Ferrari at MSRP , you have to buy a depreciation bomb like a new 612/FF at full MSRP plus one to two pre-owned V8s at MSRP + ADM " game .. to now seeing track intended GT3 series 911s built in the thousands and thousands being ordered in PTS and babied to hold/ enhance future value

I see a bit of Testarossa mania going on . In 1990-91 , the '85-90 Ferrari Testarossas w MSRPs of around 150k were trading at a up to a million dollars each despite nearly something like 9000 built . Even a savvy well known older Ferrari collector in TX bought something like a dozen or two , convinced they were gonna be $$$$$ in 25 yrs ...today they are barely at orig MSRP for the best ones ( and were sitting for $55k at the bottom of the recession in 2009-2011

buyer beware on any model built in the thousands AND market-pampered from new ( vs something high volume but a survivor like a pristine showroom level one owner 5k mile Supra where 99% if its kind are either long junked , irreversibly riced out or in barn find condition )

what will the near-vintage mkt be like when there are thousands of shrink-wrapped 991 era GT3 series vying for buyers 25 yrs from now ?!
Old 04-17-2018, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris3963
Alpine-al's observation about the lack one any intake grill on the rear deck has gone uncommented. For me, this is the most intriguing aspect. Where are the fans and the vents? Between the buttresses under the fake cloth hood at the back? But that would be too far forward (but does prompt a left field thought)....and if they are not there, where are they? Surely they would not be driving around with a fake panel covering up the cooling fans.
I agree this is intriguing. It defo has 21" rears so if I were Porsche I'd use the RS fenders and get the air in that way, giving me complete freedom on the design of the stream liners. But the mule doesn't have them. Go figure.

I think that's still my bet though.
Old 04-17-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravs
I agree this is intriguing. It defo has 21" rears so if I were Porsche I'd use the RS fenders and get the air in that way, giving me complete freedom on the design of the stream liners. But the mule doesn't have them. Go figure.

I think that's still my bet though.
I did hear a rumor that it was going to be 520hp... (RS)
Old 04-17-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JAM2
I did hear a rumor that it was going to be 520hp... (RS)
That makes sense due to:

- AP saying something special is coming
- 991 swan song needs to be good
- 21" rears on mule
- Speedster better suited to side intakes because of rear deck
Old 04-17-2018, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Gravs
That makes sense due to:

- AP saying something special is coming
- 991 swan song needs to be good
- 21" rears on mule
- Speedster better suited to side intakes because of rear deck
so the car will likely have side intakes like the RS!? Wasn’t expecting that.
Old 04-17-2018, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jo_ker
What do we know about the/a 991 sport classic / .2 R ?

https://www.total911.com/new-2017-po...roads-verdict/








Is there really going to be a .2R!?

That looks like a touring to me.

If so that would be pretty awesome! Any info?
Old 04-17-2018, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BrntRubber
Is there really going to be a .2R!?

That looks like a touring to me.

If so that would be pretty awesome! Any info?
Is it a different car, if all they change is the name on the trunk?..
Old 04-18-2018, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CAlexio
Is it a different car, if all they change is the name on the trunk?..
Yeah, as long as it also has a numbered plate and softer suspension
Old 04-23-2018, 06:51 PM
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From what I understand, it is named "Carrera Speedster" so far.
My dealer took my deposit for it today, seems like I'm the first on the list
Old 04-23-2018, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by juanpablo046
From what I understand, it is named "Carrera Speedster" so far.
My dealer took my deposit for it today, seems like I'm the first on the list
After the 918 VIPs.
Old 04-24-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MKW


in only 4 yrs , we Porsche fans have gone from being smugly thankful we didn't have to play the " if you wanna buy a new hot model ( non-supercar ) Ferrari at MSRP , you have to buy a depreciation bomb like a new 612/FF at full MSRP plus one to two pre-owned V8s at MSRP + ADM " game .. to now seeing track intended GT3 series 911s built in the thousands and thousands being ordered in PTS and babied to hold/ enhance future value

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buyer beware on any model built in the thousands AND market-pampered from new ( vs something high volume but a survivor like a pristine showroom level one owner 5k mile Supra where 99% if its kind are either long junked , irreversibly riced out or in barn find condition )

what will the near-vintage mkt be like when there are thousands of shrink-wrapped 991 era GT3 series vying for buyers 25 yrs from now ?!
Exactly my thoughts. Exercise in futility speculating values of mass-produced cars. RL died when half the threads became "what's the value of my GTx".
Old 04-24-2018, 10:00 AM
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The first 911R came in 1967. The second iteration of the 911R was 2016. The third generation is "forecasted" on 2065.

The 911 Touring or GT3 Touring will produced more frequent and often, as consumer demands.

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Originally Posted by BrntRubber

Is there really going to be a .2R!?

That looks like a touring to me.

If so that would be pretty awesome! Any info?
Old 04-24-2018, 04:14 PM
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I'm first on list at my dealer for the 2065 R3.
All very hush hush at the moment
Old 04-24-2018, 04:49 PM
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ROTFLMAO. That'll be the way to do it, if we want to secure one and hopefully without ADM.

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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
I'm first on list at my dealer for the 2065 R3.
All very hush hush at the moment
Old 04-24-2018, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ervin Wu
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