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Old 04-13-2018, 07:38 PM
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What I do not like about Porsche is this never-ending story of a series of substantially identical models with small differences.
This does not allow to have an exclusive model but only a small variant that historically will have no meaning because the numbers have grown to satisfy a worldwide clientele.
In this way exclusivity is lost.
The model begins with Carrera 2 and 4 and ends with Gt2Rs and after three years starts again with the restyling.
Maybe in Porsche they should start using more neurons.
Old 04-13-2018, 08:07 PM
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Current ADMs circulating:
1.) 991.2 GT3 - $15K to $75K
2.) 991.2 GT3RS - $60K to $100K
3.) 991 GT2RS - $150K to $200K
4.) 991 Turbo S Exclusive Series - $80K to $120K (Limited and Numbered to 500 copies)
5.) 991 Speedster - $200K to Skys the limit (Limitation and production number unknown TBD)

They did not limit the 991 GT2RS compared to the Limited and Numbered 997 GT2RS, yet there is still ADM. Porsche GT and Numbered cars are on an all time high.

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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
That most people who want it will not be able to get without a big ADM. Mute point discussing the exhaust tips. Let's talk about expected ADMs for the car.
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Speedster? 200k if you are lucky.
Sky's the limit.
Old 04-14-2018, 11:58 AM
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Pretty sure there will be 1948 Speedsters.
Not a car for me, so happy to be out of the rat race on allocations!
Old 04-14-2018, 12:50 PM
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I think you are on target. I hear from many people that is the "Magic Number" for the Speedster

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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
Pretty sure there will be 1948 Speedsters.
Not a car for me, so happy to be out of the rat race on allocations!
Old 04-14-2018, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Footsoldier
Pretty sure there will be 1948 Speedsters.
Not a car for me, so happy to be out of the rat race on allocations!
Porsche is actually quite generous w/ 1948 examples. After all they could have also decided to just make 70!
Old 04-14-2018, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ricsan
What I do not like about Porsche is this never-ending story of a series of substantially identical models with small differences.
This does not allow to have an exclusive model but only a small variant that historically will have no meaning because the numbers have grown to satisfy a worldwide clientele.
In this way exclusivity is lost.
The model begins with Carrera 2 and 4 and ends with Gt2Rs and after three years starts again with the restyling.
Maybe in Porsche they should start using more neurons.
yes quite the challenge for P to figure out how to fix this unbroken system .
Old 04-14-2018, 01:01 PM
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Exclusivity?!? Meh, you can keep it. As it is many drivers wanting cars can't or wont' be able to get them. They need to build more GT cars and more variants, if only to put an end to this stupid ADM game.
Old 04-15-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Gunner
To your point, I posted this in another thread.
In addition to the funky pea-shooter pipes, the exhaust itself does not appear to resemble a 991.2 GT3 exhaust.
Opens the door to lots of speculation
New exhaust design with particulate filter maybe?
Old 04-15-2018, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee

New exhaust design with particulate filter maybe?
New 4.2L halo gt3rs? A man can dream.

Originally Posted by djcxxx
Porsche is actually quite generous w/ 1948 examples. After all they could have also decided to just make 70!
didn’t they have a problem selling 356 units of the 997 Speedster? I know that was just a gts w lots of leather. Heck. I bought one at a discount.
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Originally Posted by JAM2


New 4.2L halo gt3rs? A man can dream.



didn’t they have a problem selling 356 units of the 997 Speedster? I know that was just a gts w lots of leather. Heck. I bought one at a discount.


back in 2013 or so my local Porsche dealer still had a new " launch color " blue 2011 997 Speedster advertised at its 195k MSRP that went unsold for what seems like a year or so and may have eventually just ended up in owner's " collection" in their back " 918 buddies " storage room for a while


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Originally Posted by JAM2


New 4.2L halo gt3rs? A man can dream.



didn’t they have a problem selling 356 units of the 997 Speedster? I know that was just a gts w lots of leather. Heck. I bought one at a discount.
thats what I thought. I was wondering why all the fuss this time around.

But I suppose the 997 speedster didn’t get a proper GT race engine last time like the 991 will be, and the 991 will be a rare NA vs the common 991 turbo carrera engine, and I expect the 991 will include a 6 speed manual option vs the 7 speed offered on regular 991 Carreras.


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Originally Posted by MKW


back in 2013 or so my local Porsche dealer still had a new " launch color " blue 2011 997 Speedster advertised at its 195k MSRP that went unsold for what seems like a year or so and may have eventually just ended up in owner's " collection" in their back " 918 buddies " storage room for a while


2011 was when the speedster came out and I guess we can say those were 'THE GOOD OLD DAYS" Not going to happen this time around. Heck I was on no list and called a dealer out of state and was able to get a GT3RS at M.S.R.P. and I was able to order the car as I wanted. Even got a call back from my salesman to offer me another car if I knew of anyone looking for an RS. So I passed the info on to my local P.C.A. club.
That was at Paul Miller in .N.J.
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Originally Posted by Porschmich
2011 was when the speedster came out and I guess we can say those were 'THE GOOD OLD DAYS" Not going to happen this time around. Heck I was on no list and called a dealer out of state and was able to get a GT3RS at M.S.R.P. and I was able to order the car as I wanted. Even got a call back from my salesman to offer me another car if I knew of anyone looking for an RS. So I passed the info on to my local P.C.A. club.
That was at Paul Miller in .N.J.
Ahhh yes, the good old non-ADM days.
Old 04-16-2018, 05:32 PM
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What do we know about the/a 991 sport classic / .2 R ?

https://www.total911.com/new-2017-po...roads-verdict/









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Old 04-16-2018, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by alpine-al
The mule doesn't appear to have an intake grill or ducts. So maybe those little exhaust tips are actually oversized.

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Alpine-al's observation about the lack one any intake grill on the rear deck has gone uncommented. For me, this is the most intriguing aspect. Where are the fans and the vents? Between the buttresses under the fake cloth hood at the back? But that would be too far forward (but does prompt a left field thought)....and if they are not there, where are they? Surely they would not be driving around with a fake panel covering up the cooling fans.


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