991.2 GT3 RS value impact on MK1 RS
#61
3. .1RS engine absolutely has Motorsport connection. It was raced in the 2015 GT3R and used and sold in the 2015 GT3R. I’ve pointed this out many times here. Ran flawlessly too.
The only thing that seems to claim that the 991 GT3 R engine = the G-generation motor in the RS is press releases and news reports based on them claiming the GT3 R motor is the same as the RS - although does that mean they're the same because they're both 4.0 liter 9a1 derivatives? No one disputes that.
I wouldn't be surprised if the GT3 R engine is actually a lot closer to the 991.2 GT3 motor and why Preuniger made comments like; "The engine is an evolution of the 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six used in the 911 GT3 RS, which itself is a stroked version of the last GT3's motor. This new motor is actually largely similar to those used in current 911 race cars, including the brand new RSR."
"http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/a32975/porsche-911-gt3-andreas-preuninger/"
Old posts from Macca also seems to show otherwise.
"From G onwards revisions to the MA175/6 engines will be based on learnings from the Motorsport engine which is a MA17x derivative..."
#62
Let’s do this. I’m in the mood to win an online argument.
Where to start... first off, your debate is on a PUBLIC forum and therefore is fair game for anyone to comment on.
Secondly, I did not use the term ad hominem. I quoted you and your use of it which, ironically, actually WAS incorrect. I said you responded with attacks which you totally did. Your hypocrisy was attacking someone (multiple times) that attacked you. Being ad hominem or not does not negate that hypocrisy. Shall we continue? lol
You actually attacked him several times like when you implied he’s a red-headed stepchild... Case closed.
Where to start... first off, your debate is on a PUBLIC forum and therefore is fair game for anyone to comment on.
Secondly, I did not use the term ad hominem. I quoted you and your use of it which, ironically, actually WAS incorrect. I said you responded with attacks which you totally did. Your hypocrisy was attacking someone (multiple times) that attacked you. Being ad hominem or not does not negate that hypocrisy. Shall we continue? lol
You actually attacked him several times like when you implied he’s a red-headed stepchild... Case closed.
Perhaps you should have read more before commenting since all you just did was demonstrate your entire argument was based on a falsehood due to you not bothering to read the earlier posts.
#63
#65
The engine in the 991.1 RS is basically equivalent of the ugly styling of the 996 GT3 and will hold back values far into the future. I think the 991.1 3's are going to be viewed as the red-headed stepchildren of GT models. ....from the normal 3, to the RS, to the R.
Red-headed stepchildren can still be lovable. Meaning he can still love his 991 RS regardless of the posts I've made about it.
Don't call people liars because you're too lazy to read the whole thread and take single posts out of context.
#67
#69
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https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...013-11014.html
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
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#71
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...013-11014.html
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
Using similar logic to this press release's spartan details one could easily make the claim that the 991.2 GT3 motor and the 991.1 RS motor are the same since they're both 4.0l 9a1 derived units with the same bore and stroke when in fact there's numerous substantial differences.
#72
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/prod...013-11014.html
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
We can start with this. Or how about this...
https://blog.caranddriver.com/porsch...911-raceology/
Also, if you think the adms were high on the .1RS hold on to your jock straps. The .2RS adms will be higher. A lot. That’s after VIPs get theirs. Short production run.
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...om-the-rs.html
From my reading of APs comments, and the opinions of Macca along with this statement above, I have very little reason to believe the G engine in the RS is the same as the engine in the GT3 R. Considering the majority of what I have read has stated that the RS engine was never put in the race cars - that lines up with this information.
A couple vague press releases don't prove otherwise. I believe the GT3 R engine is more than likely what made it's way to the 991.2.
#73
The car goes fast and it’s fun to drive, not sure what it matters if it’s ABCDEFG .....gee wiz drive the cars. Buy a car and not expect a return ......the return is the joy of the drive.
#74
Is this thread still going on? People still debating which car is best? Sorry- was out all evening having a blast driving my current RS instead of pontificating which future car MAY be better. Good luck chasing the latest and greatest. I’m having too much fun now.
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