991R vs 991.2 GT3 Touring
07-06-2018, 02:23 PM
#331
The newer 991 GT3 gearbox has not replaced the 911R box in the PET. Often when a part is updated it is superseded, ie at service they will replace an early gen 991 GT3 engine with an updated version. That's not the case here- if you have a 911R you get that gearbox, not the newer GT3's. None of which suggests the 911R box is better or worse, but it is different.
07-06-2018, 02:34 PM
#332
Drifting
07-07-2018, 05:42 AM
#333
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"The 6 speed mt in the R is quite light which isn t a bad thing but the 6 speed mt in the new GT3.2 has got more character"
Henry Catchpole
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07-07-2018, 06:19 AM
#334
You must have spent time digging out that opinion, because yesterday you thought they were the same gearbox.
( Catchpole also nicely demonstrates here, at 4.37, how pressing the sports button 'firms up the PASM' on a GT3, and he 'can feel it' , so think I'll stick to my own judgements on things...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0d_AZ...ature=youtu.be )
you have one of the best looking Tourings I've seen, and it's a great car.
why not just enjoy that, instead of tying yourself in knots, attempting to 'prove' something inferior about other people's things? (Especially when you demonstrably don't know much about what you're taking about).
( Catchpole also nicely demonstrates here, at 4.37, how pressing the sports button 'firms up the PASM' on a GT3, and he 'can feel it' , so think I'll stick to my own judgements on things...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0d_AZ...ature=youtu.be )
you have one of the best looking Tourings I've seen, and it's a great car.
why not just enjoy that, instead of tying yourself in knots, attempting to 'prove' something inferior about other people's things? (Especially when you demonstrably don't know much about what you're taking about).
07-07-2018, 06:27 AM
#335
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^ i guess the character comes from DMFW
the gearbox is the same
indeed the R one is made by sideral stars metal assembled by the Seven Dwarfs hands
there s no a fact behind R being better except some plastic here n there
overall the GT3.2 could be called
the R v 2.0
and sorry this thread title is R vs GT3
the gearbox is the same
indeed the R one is made by sideral stars metal assembled by the Seven Dwarfs hands
there s no a fact behind R being better except some plastic here n there
overall the GT3.2 could be called
the R v 2.0
and sorry this thread title is R vs GT3
07-07-2018, 12:06 PM
#337
Race Director
Originally Posted by Footsoldier
You must have spent time digging out that opinion, because yesterday you thought they were the same gearbox.
( Catchpole also nicely demonstrates here, at 4.37, how pressing the sports button 'firms up the PASM' on a GT3, and he 'can feel it' , so think I'll stick to my own judgements on things...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0d_AZ...ature=youtu.be )
you have one of the best looking Tourings I've seen, and it's a great car.
why not just enjoy that, instead of tying yourself in knots, attempting to 'prove' something inferior about other people's things? (Especially when you demonstrably don't know much about what you're taking about).
( Catchpole also nicely demonstrates here, at 4.37, how pressing the sports button 'firms up the PASM' on a GT3, and he 'can feel it' , so think I'll stick to my own judgements on things...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w0d_AZ...ature=youtu.be )
you have one of the best looking Tourings I've seen, and it's a great car.
why not just enjoy that, instead of tying yourself in knots, attempting to 'prove' something inferior about other people's things? (Especially when you demonstrably don't know much about what you're taking about).
07-07-2018, 12:19 PM
#338
Three Wheelin'
^^^Exactly CAlexio. I'm sure he knows the difference, and this was likely an editing and slip of the tongue mistake (particularly when the button right below 'Sport' has a picture of a shock absorber).
The suspension in this 991.2 GT3 is a true marvel. My favorite part of this car so far (probably because I haven't been over 5k RPMs yet). Out this morning for a spirited drive on some extremely rough/damaged northeastern Connecticut backroads. Car handled them with ease. Effortless. Regardless whether or not suspension button is activated.
Car is amazingly compliant but firm at all times. Never sloppy. Never harsh. Never skips across bumps like my old 991.1 GTS. Just perfectly balanced.
The suspension in this 991.2 GT3 is a true marvel. My favorite part of this car so far (probably because I haven't been over 5k RPMs yet). Out this morning for a spirited drive on some extremely rough/damaged northeastern Connecticut backroads. Car handled them with ease. Effortless. Regardless whether or not suspension button is activated.
Car is amazingly compliant but firm at all times. Never sloppy. Never harsh. Never skips across bumps like my old 991.1 GTS. Just perfectly balanced.
07-08-2018, 06:09 AM
#339
If I had purchased a PTS R to my specification at some sort of employee pricing I doubt I'd be rushing out to buy a GT3 either.
Yet, you know what Walter isn't doing? Making up BS on this forum
07-08-2018, 08:19 AM
#340
BS like the Touring having same gearbox as R, I assume you mean? Or show me that it does.
Porsche are kings of niche, and can make an almost limitless variety of 911 to suit every need (Speedster next). Yet, some of you are so keen to be right, that you are arguing that a car with a different engine, different gearbox, different body panels, different suspension, different RWS settings, different exhaust etc (and more of a road-bias) can’t feel different, despite numerous ‘non-flippers’ telling you otherwise.
It is, however, clearly ‘inferior’ because you can rev an engine that peaks at 8250 rpm, a bit longer in the non-optimum power band. I don’t think you understand how Porsche works, never mind their cars.
Not for the first time, I’ll try to ignore this BS for a while!
Porsche are kings of niche, and can make an almost limitless variety of 911 to suit every need (Speedster next). Yet, some of you are so keen to be right, that you are arguing that a car with a different engine, different gearbox, different body panels, different suspension, different RWS settings, different exhaust etc (and more of a road-bias) can’t feel different, despite numerous ‘non-flippers’ telling you otherwise.
It is, however, clearly ‘inferior’ because you can rev an engine that peaks at 8250 rpm, a bit longer in the non-optimum power band. I don’t think you understand how Porsche works, never mind their cars.
Not for the first time, I’ll try to ignore this BS for a while!
07-08-2018, 12:58 PM
#343
Many people in inner Porsche circles have said that the 911 R was really an expiremnt to determine whether there really was enough demand to continue offering manual transmission on the GT3. This and the initial R&D required to develop may explain why the R transmission was originally manufactured in one facility, and once they confirmed they would offer more volume in the .2 GT3, they continued to product the transmission at another facility.
07-08-2018, 04:28 PM
#344
Racer
Many people in inner Porsche circles have said that the 911 R was really an expiremnt to determine whether there really was enough demand to continue offering manual transmission on the GT3. This and the initial R&D required to develop may explain why the R transmission was originally manufactured in one facility, and once they confirmed they would offer more volume in the .2 GT3, they continued to product the transmission at another facility.
07-08-2018, 06:15 PM
#345
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Originally Posted by _fletch
Makes so much sense, despite a few people on here desperately needing to validate there preferences/purchases.