991R vs 991.2 GT3 Touring
12-22-2017, 07:45 PM
#151
Rennlist Member
Cool. Get in line to take your swing. Your car isn't that special anymore and the value is gonna keep declining because of it. If you want to argue with a specific point I made than feel free to quote me like I've done with numerous people here that ran their mouth without even a hint of research. Otherwise it's just baseless nonsense because you're upset I pointed out reality.
Footsoldier drives the **** out of the 911R. Think he cares about declining value? Nope.
I drove my car a ton also. I am also the side that the car is over valued. I am pretty much trying to topple the 'VALUE' of the 911R even as a owner who bought at MSRP. So where do that puts me?
Like him, there is no chance for me to sell it. It's a special car within Porsche's history. So whatever the value goes up or down makes no difference. Actually it does, if the value goes down my insurance on it goes down too.
Reality is that those that own a 911R don't give a hoot about value. We buy cars to drive. Period. Cars are pretty much last on the list for investments. We have way too many cars and simply don't care. Do Bill Gates care about Microsoft's stock price?
12-22-2017, 07:47 PM
#152
Rennlist Member
I'm not much interested in carrying on with this thread, but I thought I would least help you in understanding the terminology that you are obliterating. First, there is a difference between objective vs subjective statements. If you don't know the difference, I would implore you to consult a dictionary or maybe use the internet which you are accustomed to. An OBJECTIVE claim or statement would refer to something which can be quantified in a measurable and reproducible result that can be used as a data point to support the claim as fact. SUBJECTIVE claims are statements not based in fact and more relevant to a personal observation. So when someone is saying one car is louder than the other, unless there is data to support the statement it would be considered subjective. I did not see any data i.e. decibel readings which would substantiate a result. Therefore, my SUBJECTIVE observation would be considered an opinion, as well as Top Gear and Whoopsy. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Sorry everyone, just seems sort of scary when he doesn't understand the difference between an opinion and fact.
Sorry everyone, just seems sort of scary when he doesn't understand the difference between an opinion and fact.
12-22-2017, 09:47 PM
#155
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But when I see someone who doesn’t own a GT3 or an R chasing away contributors who have real world perspectives to share, well... I guess there’s bait we’ll all rise to.
But when I see someone who doesn’t own a GT3 or an R chasing away contributors who have real world perspectives to share, well... I guess there’s bait we’ll all rise to.
12-22-2017, 10:22 PM
#157
Burning Brakes
I have no idea where this thread is going. Can we just agree they are two very similar, yet slightly different cars?
Whoopsy said they have slightly different feels based partially on the different suspension setups.
R is an icon, yet arguably a slightly tarnished one in term of Porsche history.
Touring has arguably a better engine and aero, yet isn't a limited edition, and doesn't have some of the special parts that make an R what it is.
Does it matter either way? It's like a death match between amazing car A and amazing car B.
Anyone that gets to enjoy either - or both - is a winner.
Leaving now. I'll get my coat...
Whoopsy said they have slightly different feels based partially on the different suspension setups.
R is an icon, yet arguably a slightly tarnished one in term of Porsche history.
Touring has arguably a better engine and aero, yet isn't a limited edition, and doesn't have some of the special parts that make an R what it is.
Does it matter either way? It's like a death match between amazing car A and amazing car B.
Anyone that gets to enjoy either - or both - is a winner.
Leaving now. I'll get my coat...
12-22-2017, 10:50 PM
#158
Burning Brakes
Those who bought in the secondary market are either enthusiasts who got what they wanted and don't care about the price, enthusiasts who thought they could make a buck (and got there fingers burned), or non-enthusiasts (who also got their fingers burned). Distinguishing between these groups requires prosecuting intent, though. How can we ever pretend to know another's intent?
Do not ascribe to others motives meaner than your own. That phrase tends to to keep me from getting out over my skis. Not always, but often.
12-22-2017, 11:02 PM
#159
12-23-2017, 03:20 AM
#161
Three Wheelin'
Wishful thinking but not gonna happen. Putting the same engine from the 991.2 GT3 on the 718 GT4 will be a catastrophic error on Porsche should they do that.
Mid-engine is the ideal location for racing/track cars. At best 718 GT4 will have a detuned flat-six engine from the GT3.
LINK:
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-will-get-its-flat-six-and-six-speed-manual-back
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Mid-engine is the ideal location for racing/track cars. At best 718 GT4 will have a detuned flat-six engine from the GT3.
LINK:
http://autoweek.com/article/car-news/porsche-718-cayman-gt4-will-get-its-flat-six-and-six-speed-manual-back
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
12-23-2017, 03:33 AM
#162
Race Director
Originally Posted by destaccado
There's a lot more to Rennlist than the overpriced 991 R and its sanctimonious speculator ownership group (specifically referring to the seeming majority who spend more time posting about the car then actually driving it) 
The real irony is that you can't see the hypocrisy in your own post.
The real irony is that you can't see the hypocrisy in your own post.
Anyway, my mistake for engaging in this pointless exercise, you seem to live for the argument.. you win, keep spewing your silliness with everybody and making each thread you participate in, miserable. there is room in forums for all types.
Ps: I've probably got more track miles in a 911R than most in the world, and quite a few road miles. You're right, I don't own one, but as a test driver for a small manufacturer, ive enjoyed occasionally sharing my insights without ever putting anyone's baby down, hurting any feelings, or overplaying my hand. I listen more than I talk, and I don't argue pointlessly with people.
I'm sure you'll have plenty to reflexively say back to me.. knock yourself out mr distaccato... yes, the irony runs deep.
12-23-2017, 03:51 AM
#163
https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...&postcount=222
History repeating... trolls will be trolls.
12-23-2017, 05:41 AM
#165
Rennlist Member
Most of the owners I Know here un France don’t care about if the Touring is better than the R or not.
they take their pleasure in Driving their cars on our fabulous twisty roads until we are allowed to do ! Everything else doesn’t matter.
