Manual Vs. PDK in the GT3 .2
11-17-2017, 01:20 AM
#151
Who cares. Just be thankful that Porsche offered you both choices. Those of us who are fortunate enough in life to actually afford one of these machines is a rare thing today. As such, I feel blessed that I have the opportunity to own one.
Thank goodness they don't offer it in only one color...
They are choices; celebrate that, don't debate it.
- Chris.
Thank goodness they don't offer it in only one color...
They are choices; celebrate that, don't debate it.
- Chris.
11-17-2017, 06:42 AM
#153
Three Wheelin'
Originally Posted by Dougr743
? As for the lap time, learning to time apex, better braking control thing. i am guessing most PDK owners always stay in automatic? It seems running the car in full automatic is the faster way around the track? Letting the car do all the work.
I drove a pdk in 2014 and the instructor (pro race car driver) explained that the car was much faster if you just let it do all the shifting and not touch the paddles. Does this sound correct?
I chose a manual, but did think it could be a good idea to be able to have my wife drive the car if needed, or needed to move it out of the garage for some reason. other than that, I guess eliminating the paddles would be the fastest set up for lap times?
I drove a pdk in 2014 and the instructor (pro race car driver) explained that the car was much faster if you just let it do all the shifting and not touch the paddles. Does this sound correct?
I chose a manual, but did think it could be a good idea to be able to have my wife drive the car if needed, or needed to move it out of the garage for some reason. other than that, I guess eliminating the paddles would be the fastest set up for lap times?
11-18-2017, 12:22 AM
#154
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This majority of this thread is filled with pontificating MT circle-jerks.
If anything, for someone who is genuinely confused about which transmission is better for them, this thread will only confuse and obfuscate, if not completely derail the decision.
11-18-2017, 12:45 AM
#155
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^ LOL, tell us what u really feel. but i agree with you.
11-18-2017, 02:05 AM
#156
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
I disagree.
This majority of this thread is filled with pontificating MT circle-jerks.
If anything, for someone who is genuinely confused about which transmission is better for them, this thread will only confuse and obfuscate, if not completely derail the decision.
This majority of this thread is filled with pontificating MT circle-jerks.
If anything, for someone who is genuinely confused about which transmission is better for them, this thread will only confuse and obfuscate, if not completely derail the decision.
11-18-2017, 08:12 AM
#157
Burning Brakes
I will say that whenever someone posts photos of their incoming .2 GT3s and they are manuals, many comment, "Wow, manual for the win", "Cool a M/T", "Love the manual", "Wow, a stickshift!", etc.
No one will EVER comment, "Nice! PDK for the win", "Cool..PDK!", etc.
....even though the take rate for manual vs. PDK is near 50/50.....it's because there is still something special about the manual car.
No one will EVER comment, "Nice! PDK for the win", "Cool..PDK!", etc.
....even though the take rate for manual vs. PDK is near 50/50.....it's because there is still something special about the manual car.
11-19-2017, 08:27 AM
#159
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I know what I'm about to write may be a bit controversial but it's based on my brief experience of driving a manual .2 GT3 which I got a few days ago.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.
11-19-2017, 09:06 AM
#160
Drifting
M...great comments concerning your new gorgeous Carmine Red GT3. Everyone has different wants/needs. Thankfully Porsche has allowed us to tailor our cars to these needs...assuming you can get one! No wrong answer here.
11-19-2017, 09:41 AM
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BTW, I know of someone who will be getting his Carmine soon
11-19-2017, 09:55 AM
#162
Burning Brakes
My last car was a 991.1 C4S with a PDK. I loved it and was really on the fence about whether to go manual or PDK in the GT3.
But now that I’ve taken delivery of my manual .2GT3, all I will say is you are crazy if you don’t go manual. It’s that good and completely suits the rawness of the car.
But now that I’ve taken delivery of my manual .2GT3, all I will say is you are crazy if you don’t go manual. It’s that good and completely suits the rawness of the car.
11-19-2017, 10:07 AM
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I know what I'm about to write may be a bit controversial but it's based on my brief experience of driving a manual .2 GT3 which I got a few days ago.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.
Your observations have been the first that has made me really contemplate whether PDK was the right choice for me. I appreciate that you were able to do that.
Thanks again,
Chris.
11-19-2017, 11:21 AM
#164
(Copied and pasted from another thread as this one seems more appropriate)
Does anybody going back to a manual from a pdk .1gt3 miss the fact that you can spend so much of your time so much easier in the higher rev ranges and shift so much more freely between the gears at higher RPM? Or do you just not need to do that anymore because of the added torque of the .2? I definitely miss heel toe’ng in a manual and if I could have both a pdk and a manual I would, but I really can’t justify having 3 cars and I don’t enjoy daily’ing a GT3.
Does anybody going back to a manual from a pdk .1gt3 miss the fact that you can spend so much of your time so much easier in the higher rev ranges and shift so much more freely between the gears at higher RPM? Or do you just not need to do that anymore because of the added torque of the .2? I definitely miss heel toe’ng in a manual and if I could have both a pdk and a manual I would, but I really can’t justify having 3 cars and I don’t enjoy daily’ing a GT3.
11-19-2017, 04:51 PM
#165
I know what I'm about to write may be a bit controversial but it's based on my brief experience of driving a manual .2 GT3 which I got a few days ago.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.
IMO, it's best to think of PDK or Manual cars as two entirely different cars. It not about which is better, just which experience meets your needs. Yes, the lightening quick shifts that result from PDK cannot be matched by the average driver (me being one of them), but for that there is a trade-off by way of a significant reduction in visceral feel. For me it was something I had forgotten about. Upon driving the manual, I instantly realized that over the 4 odd years of PDK GT car driving (GT3/GT3RS), some of my driving senses got dulled and effortlessly pulling paddles became the norm. Rowing gears faded away into the realms of analogue and engineering nostalgia. Into that chasm also went some of the driving skills that had been honed over the years. Experiencing this manual car has brought back not only the physical connection with a car but a new found appreciation and desire to regain lost or forgotten skills. It's a reconnect that I didn't know would be there and nor did I expect it. What a pleasant surprise!
I love the extra analogue layer that the manual box adds as it REALLY changes the drive entirely. For my purposes, it changes it for the better!
Dare I say it, it’s more fun than my RS was!!!!! It's just more engaging and has me connect with bits of my senses which had either got dull or forgotten altogether. The engine and sound from the get go is entirely different and just glorious.
Until recently I had been questioning my decision of selling the RS. Now, ZERO regrets! I'm a happy camper.
It really is about how you want to connect with the car.