991.2 GT3 RS
02-01-2018, 10:34 AM
#271
Probably not. You need a pretty strong relationship with your dealer to get one at MSRP. It depends on how many they make though.
If it's only bold new graphics and 20 more hp. I will keep my .1 RS. Who can feel 20hp? I bet there is more variance among the manufactured engines than that.
If it's only bold new graphics and 20 more hp. I will keep my .1 RS. Who can feel 20hp? I bet there is more variance among the manufactured engines than that.
02-01-2018, 10:38 AM
#272
The key, if not biggest, advantage especially on the track would be the aero/downforce and lighter weight plus some more aggressive suspension components/tuning. That +20hp advantage all of a sudden escalates particularly on a higher-speed road course due to those factors. I'd get one at msrp from my dealer (due to a previous GT4 + GT3.2 at msrp from same dealer) but I think the major question is allocations.
02-01-2018, 11:10 AM
#274
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i agree. I was seriously considering turning my .2 in for the PTS.2RS. But I don’t see how I can justify it. I don’t track cars often. The delta in price is around $60,000. My car MSRP was $165,000. Assuming a price increase for the RS of $10-15,000 before any option the car will start at $200,000. Similar options to mine and you close to $225,000. With PTS out and an increase of 20 hp I don’t see it making sense for me.
02-01-2018, 11:18 AM
#275
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The key, if not biggest, advantage especially on the track would be the aero/downforce and lighter weight plus some more aggressive suspension components/tuning. That +20hp advantage all of a sudden escalates particularly on a higher-speed road course due to those factors. I'd get one at msrp from my dealer (due to a previous GT4 + GT3.2 at msrp from same dealer) but I think the major question is allocations.
Anybody that says "I'll pass on the .2 because it only has 25hp more" is a F-ing idiot. This car will take the same leap over the previous RS that the .2 GT3 did over it's predecessor. If it had literally the same HP as before, it would still be worth it. It's not just peak HP that was improved, it's the mid-range improvement, which doesn't show up in magazine stats.
If you've driven a .2GT3, then you already know this car is bloody fast.
02-01-2018, 11:19 AM
#276
Race Car
991.2 GT3 RS seems to be a money saver for some - but I still want one!
As always with Porsche GT's it is not the numbers that count, it is the driving experience.
As always with Porsche GT's it is not the numbers that count, it is the driving experience.
02-01-2018, 11:24 AM
#277
I'm not sure why you wouldn't get the new one. New engine likely truly running to 9000 rpm this time, front hood/ducts from GT2, carbon roof?, 20 more hp. Everything will be slightly improved. And I'll be surprised if they don't have a special "one more thing" marketing talking point to get everyone excited. Lots of people complained the .1RS wasn't worth the premium over the GT3 until reviews started and people got to see the car. Then they were +100k.
02-01-2018, 11:37 AM
#279
This. I won't be surprised one bit to see similar spring rates to the GT2RS. This is part of what allows the GT2RS to shine at the track with ridiculous lap times. Sure it will make a bit more power, but the secret sauce is in the setup. Just look at what Manthey created with a stiffer suspension platform, a bit more aero, and slightly stickier tires....this new RS will be a monster. Should run a sub 7 N-ring time.
Anybody that says "I'll pass on the .2 because it only has 25hp more" is a F-ing idiot. This car will take the same leap over the previous RS that the .2 GT3 did over it's predecessor. If it had literally the same HP as before, it would still be worth it. It's not just peak HP that was improved, it's the mid-range improvement, which doesn't show up in magazine stats.
If you've driven a .2GT3, then you already know this car is bloody fast.
Anybody that says "I'll pass on the .2 because it only has 25hp more" is a F-ing idiot. This car will take the same leap over the previous RS that the .2 GT3 did over it's predecessor. If it had literally the same HP as before, it would still be worth it. It's not just peak HP that was improved, it's the mid-range improvement, which doesn't show up in magazine stats.
If you've driven a .2GT3, then you already know this car is bloody fast.
02-01-2018, 12:07 PM
#282
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All engines are measured on a engine dyno at 0 kph road speed, so any additional power from ram-air at over 300 kph is not included in power rating. Wouldn't make sense to have different power ratings for each gear...
02-01-2018, 12:11 PM
#283
Drifting
02-01-2018, 12:15 PM
#284
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RS to RS, only reason to trade if you’re not a bubble wrapper is reliability of new motor - new motor is in the Cup, old one didn’t make the cut. Beyond that everything else I can do better aftermarket. Diffuser can be added. Stiffer suspension can be added and frankly I’d go Ti springs for less unspring weight savings and aftermarket shock for better adjustability. Never had an issue with brake cooling so unless they’re introducing new calipers that make pad changes easier I don’t care. RWS recalibration? Meh. Serious trackers are binning the whole system and liking it better. The delta would allow you do stuff like the above plus lightweight exhaust and Mg wheels and still leave money in your pocket for consumables.
That’s for real drovers. If you’re a wrapper or looking for street cred then of course latest is greatest. Oh, and last of the NA RS’s. There’s that.....maybe.
That’s for real drovers. If you’re a wrapper or looking for street cred then of course latest is greatest. Oh, and last of the NA RS’s. There’s that.....maybe.
Last edited by Nizer; 02-01-2018 at 12:35 PM.
02-01-2018, 12:33 PM
#285
I think I will join you guys and say that I am not planning to trade my .1 to .2 based on what we have heard of the specs for now. BUT wait until the lizard green pictures start coming and the hype comes from the reviews. 
I'm sure majority of us will be calling our dealers and offering our wives and kids for an allocation and I will be one of them most likely
I'm sure majority of us will be calling our dealers and offering our wives and kids for an allocation and I will be one of them most likely