Originally Posted by stout

Am I the only guy who loved watching the 993 GT2s on track?

Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3

A part of me will be happy to have the next GT cars go all turbo and/or hybrid so I can stop buying new GT cars. haha

Originally Posted by Nizer

don't expect Cup to go turbo anytime soon. unnecessary cost and complexity in spec series that Porsche controls.

could be new GT4 contender where Cayman has not been getting the job done.

Originally Posted by Mvez

That is not GT3 aero, it's Cup aero. it might be a GT3R engine/drivetrain test mule, but that is still years away. IMSA has already confirmed that Porsche (along with other manufacturers) are using their one-time update to the currently homologated GT3R. This means it will feature the new fascia/aero as seen on the upcoming GT3RS, and all the other various updates of the new 2018 GT3R car package.. The GT3R is homologated off the RS, so we will see this "Evo" update kit for the current GT3R owners, along with the release of the .2RS for the 2018 racing season.

So Porsche GT3R is going to stay NA for the new few years as well, which is a good thing. That car is perfectly competitive in all GT3/GTD competition. Good teams/drivers campaigning them are what have been lacking.

Given that prices for top GT4 cars are now the same or more than 991.2 Cup cars, it wouldn't surprise me to see Porsche move to the 911 platform for GT4, and use the 718/GT4 for future TCR categories. However, the GT2RS base price is already crazy high, so it's not like they will charge LESS for the race car version of it.....I'm interested to see how they would price such a car, if it existed. 300K for a GT4 car seems kinda crazy given their current GT4 car costs $160K.

Whatever they do, they always find a way to make it work. I'm just glad they are still one of the very few offering NA street and race cars.

Originally Posted by consolidated

Get you and your turbo cars off my lawn!

Originally Posted by Guest89

What about the lack of performance of the GT3 R at the Laguna 8 Hours? With Pat, Romain, and Jorg at the wheel?

Originally Posted by Mvez

That was due to a freak fueling issue, where they literally couldn't get fuel in the car. Not from a lack of pace.

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban

This car is a drivetrain test mule for the 2019 GT3R/ GTD car

Cup cars will remain NA as they are technically based off the GT3 street car. And since GT3 cup cars only race against GT3 cup cars...what is the point of completely changing them?

GT3/GTD class cars have less technical need to follow the street car, lots of waivers granted for cars as long as they can be homologated.


Gt4 class racing is officially F’d. The running costs would make you guys puke. The camaro is 260,000. McLaren 240, Audi R8 250.

IMSA really screwed up the BOP. Mustang has GT3 style aero kit for example. And mountain of torque. So, way easier to drive into corners and way easier to pass people when you just motorboat them on the straights.

Running GT4 for a championship level team is 1M or so PER CAR. FOR GT4! And now that INSA is switching to Michelin...the most expensive tire...lol

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban

This car is a drivetrain test mule for the 2019 GT3R/ GTD car

Cup cars will remain NA as they are technically based off the GT3 street car. And since GT3 cup cars only race against GT3 cup cars...what is the point of completely changing them?

GT3/GTD class cars have less technical need to follow the street car, lots of waivers granted for cars as long as they can be homologated.


Gt4 class racing is officially F’d. The running costs would make you guys puke. The camaro is 260,000. McLaren 240, Audi R8 250.

IMSA really screwed up the BOP. Mustang has GT3 style aero kit for example. And mountain of torque. So, way easier to drive into corners and way easier to pass people when you just motorboat them on the straights.

Running GT4 for a championship level team is 1M or so PER CAR. FOR GT4! And now that INSA is switching to Michelin...the most expensive tire...lol

Originally Posted by Drifting

Thanks for insider info, C.J. I can’t believe the GT4c running costs! Looks like I will stick with just DE days and my GT3.

I may be in the minority here, but I think the GT3 street car will stay NA with a manual option forever, as AP wants that, Porsche has a unique market niche as the drivers car among high-end sports cars, and plenty of demand. Also think they will keep the touring option forever (during the GT3 production runs), to preserve those manual NA drivers car options in the Porsche lineup.

The RS I’m less certain about as its Porsche’s top dog street-legal race car. It’s the car I could see them doing a NA+hybrid or turbo engine switch in the future so it can stay in the same ballpark as Mclaren, Ferrari, and the new Lamborghini turbo/hybrids coming in the future. Also another reason the RS might stay PDK only is the need to mate with a hybrid/turbo engine.

Originally Posted by C.J. Ichiban

Racing Coster different than running cost

7-10 crew, flights, hotels, meals, swag

It adds up when you have 10 races