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Old 03-07-2019, 05:05 PM
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How could it be a sale price on a successfully completed auction without the deal going through? What does that even mean?
It's states the car is sold, it states a sale price, but we don't know if the buyer submitted payment and the deal went thru, or if the seller kept the car, what's hard to understand?
Old 03-07-2019, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GiuseppeM
It's states the car is sold, it states a sale price, but we don't know if the buyer submitted payment and the deal went thru, or if the seller kept the car, what's hard to understand?
By that standard, do we know anything at all?
Old 03-07-2019, 05:12 PM
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There is a contract that each seller and buyer enter by agreeing to list on the site and agreeing to bid. It's always possible a deal will fall through somehow, but BAT is a well established boutique site that would be hurt by buyers or sellers backing out and imagine they make sure that doesn't happen with as much power as possible.
Old 03-07-2019, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1


How could it be a sale price on a successfully completed auction without the deal going through? What does that even mean?
Buyers decides to back out and not transfer funds. In this case, the seller could try and back out of the deal in some other manner. Happens all the time.
Old 03-07-2019, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hf1


By that standard, do we know anything at all?
Literally laughing out loud in my office.
Old 03-07-2019, 05:19 PM
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BaT takes it's commission from the bidder, unlike ebay. So the buyer would still be out 5% of the hammer price if they reneged.
Old 03-07-2019, 05:38 PM
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The point is that we can't use this sale price as comp because we don't know if the deal went thru
Old 03-07-2019, 05:41 PM
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Of course you can use it as a comp. No other bidders bid higher which means that the specific car through that specific medium is worth $155k plus $5k buyer's fee.
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Originally Posted by Ro_Ja Boy
Of course you can use it as a comp. No other bidders bid higher which means that the specific car through that specific medium is worth $155k plus $5k buyer's fee.
By definition comps require a sale
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Originally Posted by Ro_Ja Boy
Of course you can use it as a comp. No other bidders bid higher which means that the specific car through that specific medium is worth $155k plus $5k buyer's fee.
If all you know is the bid, it’s useless data as regards market value. Just because nobody bid higher doesn’t mean that’s the value of the car, unless a seller actually agrees to the sale and a transaction really occurs. In this case, the seller was stupid if he agreed to such a low reserve and sold at that price. There are cars transacting at much better price levels.
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Originally Posted by medici78
BaT takes it's commission from the bidder, unlike ebay. So the buyer would still be out 5% of the hammer price if they reneged.
What happens if the seller has a change of heart and decides that they don't want to sell the car, then what?
Old 03-07-2019, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
What happens if the seller has a change of heart and decides that they don't want to sell the car, then what?
That would be the smart thing to do. Not necessarily the right thing to do, but I expect he would lose access to the site. It’s possible, although not sure how likely, they could be sued since they are entering a contract to sell by listing on there.
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BAT automatically charges you a chunk of the auction price at the end of the auction if it's successful. It's a legally binding contract - it's extremely rare to see a deal on there not go through. This is as real of a comp as you can get.

Source: I've bought a car on BAT.
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Originally Posted by kpflynn
BAT automatically charges you a chunk of the auction price at the end of the auction if it's successful. It's a legally binding contract - it's extremely rare to see a deal on there not go through. This is as real of a comp as you can get.

Source: I've bought a car on BAT.
Well that settles it. The market is completely gone!
Old 03-07-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kpflynn
BAT automatically charges you a chunk of the auction price at the end of the auction if it's successful. It's a legally binding contract - it's extremely rare to see a deal on there not go through. This is as real of a comp as you can get.

Source: I've bought a car on BAT.
People say eBay transactions are legally binding contracts, same as Bring a Trailer. Now try to go and enforce it...


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