New GT3/GT2RS Leads With/Without ADM
01-24-2019, 02:36 PM
#3706
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They have been sitting on that Gulf Blue GT3 forever! That's what you get when you are asking for huge ADM.
Just as ChrisDM articulated below: exactly my line of thinking. Why pay another $3K for more weight, less appeal (to me), and certainly not a 'delta' in illumination that I can appreciate.
Plus, IIRC the LEDs may have a different light pattern / programming in the US vs Europe. As an example, I had to retrofit (via software) my LED lights on the F80 M3 30 Yahre to European spec. The 'anti-dazzle' feature in the BMW LEDs is disabled in the US because it has yet to be tested by the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). Doesn't matter that it has been successfully used in Europe - BMW cannot activate it on cars sold in the US. But aftermarket tuners can
Just as ChrisDM articulated below: exactly my line of thinking. Why pay another $3K for more weight, less appeal (to me), and certainly not a 'delta' in illumination that I can appreciate.
Plus, IIRC the LEDs may have a different light pattern / programming in the US vs Europe. As an example, I had to retrofit (via software) my LED lights on the F80 M3 30 Yahre to European spec. The 'anti-dazzle' feature in the BMW LEDs is disabled in the US because it has yet to be tested by the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration). Doesn't matter that it has been successfully used in Europe - BMW cannot activate it on cars sold in the US. But aftermarket tuners can
01-24-2019, 04:30 PM
#3707
Three Wheelin'
Thank you guys for the insights, appreciate it.
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Drive safe,
GT3RS-Fan1
Mine will be a March build and I was told wp 808 and the mag wheels have not been rejected and 🙏 that it will get done.
My SM said both were originally wp808 not available then 2 weeks later it was ok. Mag wheels originally denied but he checked a week later and it was ok again. Car is v200 right now per sm.
My SM said both were originally wp808 not available then 2 weeks later it was ok. Mag wheels originally denied but he checked a week later and it was ok again. Car is v200 right now per sm.
01-24-2019, 06:41 PM
#3708
Advanced
I do not know about 2RS dealer margins. As far as allocations, assuming GT2 builds stop in February which is what I have been told repeatedly, what your SA stated makes sense. My end Feb build locked last week.
01-25-2019, 10:19 PM
#3710
Race Car
I was told with fairly good reliability that AT MSRP the GT car is the worst margin to any dealer of all the cars they sell. That is comparing MSRP to MSRP. Not comparing an ADM GT car to a below MSRP Macan. .
01-25-2019, 10:56 PM
#3711
So as a %, the dealer makes more on a Macan than a GT (both at MSRP)?
01-25-2019, 11:07 PM
#3712
RL Community Team
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I've said it before, GT cars offer the lowest margins for PAG of the entire lineup.
01-25-2019, 11:27 PM
#3713
Yet those are most of the 911 cars that they build. Porsche knows where the demand is and they produce to it. Think about how many 911s would be lingering around the dealer showrooms if they build more non-GT 911s instead of more GT cars. It'll be the same case with the GT4 vs the 718 cars.
01-27-2019, 01:30 PM
#3716
Rennlist Member
A serious discount in price
https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inve...ac2a91ks149089
$179k, VIN decodes to GT3RS
https://rennlist.com/forums/vindecod...AC2A91KS149089VIN Decoder
2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Coupe
VIN: WP0AC2A91KS149089
Print
Summary Style & Trim Equipment Colors Tech Specs
Narrow Down By Style GT3 RS CoupeGeneral Information
MFR Model Code991850Body Type2dr CarPass Doors2Alternative NameAlternative Body2dr CarDrivetrainRear Wheel DriveOriginal Pricing
MSRP$213,400.00Invoice$0.00Destination Charge$1,250.00Engine & Powertrain
TypeFlat 6 Cylinder EngineDisplacement L/CI4.0/Fuel TypeGasoline FuelHorsepower520.0 @ 8250Fuel Economy0.0 City / 0.0 HighwayFuel Capacity64.0 LNet Torque346.0 @ 6000Tech Specs
Manufactured ByGermany PorscheSuspension Type - FrontStrut Suspension Type - RearMulti-Link Front Tire SizeP265/35YR20 Rear Tire SizeP325/30YR21 Brake ABS System4-Wheel Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness16.1, 15 in 15.0 min 16.1 maxRear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness15.4, 15 in 15.0 min 15.4 maxWheelbase96.6 in 96.6 min 96.6 max
https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inve...ac2a91ks149089
$179k, VIN decodes to GT3RS
https://rennlist.com/forums/vindecod...AC2A91KS149089VIN Decoder
2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS CoupeVIN: WP0AC2A91KS149089
Summary Style & Trim Equipment Colors Tech Specs
Narrow Down By Style GT3 RS CoupeGeneral Information
MFR Model Code991850Body Type2dr CarPass Doors2Alternative NameAlternative Body2dr CarDrivetrainRear Wheel DriveOriginal Pricing
MSRP$213,400.00Invoice$0.00Destination Charge$1,250.00Engine & Powertrain
TypeFlat 6 Cylinder EngineDisplacement L/CI4.0/Fuel TypeGasoline FuelHorsepower520.0 @ 8250Fuel Economy0.0 City / 0.0 HighwayFuel Capacity64.0 LNet Torque346.0 @ 6000Tech Specs
Manufactured ByGermany PorscheSuspension Type - FrontStrut Suspension Type - RearMulti-Link Front Tire SizeP265/35YR20 Rear Tire SizeP325/30YR21 Brake ABS System4-Wheel Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness16.1, 15 in 15.0 min 16.1 maxRear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness15.4, 15 in 15.0 min 15.4 maxWheelbase96.6 in 96.6 min 96.6 max
01-27-2019, 01:49 PM
#3717
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A serious discount in price
https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inve...ac2a91ks149089
$179k, VIN decodes to GT3RS
https://rennlist.com/forums/vindecod...AC2A91KS149089VIN Decoder
2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS Coupe
VIN: WP0AC2A91KS149089
Print
Summary Style & Trim Equipment Colors Tech Specs
Narrow Down By Style GT3 RS CoupeGeneral Information
MFR Model Code991850Body Type2dr CarPass Doors2Alternative NameAlternative Body2dr CarDrivetrainRear Wheel DriveOriginal Pricing
MSRP$213,400.00Invoice$0.00Destination Charge$1,250.00Engine & Powertrain
TypeFlat 6 Cylinder EngineDisplacement L/CI4.0/Fuel TypeGasoline FuelHorsepower520.0 @ 8250Fuel Economy0.0 City / 0.0 HighwayFuel Capacity64.0 LNet Torque346.0 @ 6000Tech Specs
Manufactured ByGermany PorscheSuspension Type - FrontStrut Suspension Type - RearMulti-Link Front Tire SizeP265/35YR20 Rear Tire SizeP325/30YR21 Brake ABS System4-Wheel Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness16.1, 15 in 15.0 min 16.1 maxRear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness15.4, 15 in 15.0 min 15.4 maxWheelbase96.6 in 96.6 min 96.6 max
https://www.hennessyporsche.com/inve...ac2a91ks149089
$179k, VIN decodes to GT3RS
https://rennlist.com/forums/vindecod...AC2A91KS149089VIN Decoder
2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS CoupeVIN: WP0AC2A91KS149089
Summary Style & Trim Equipment Colors Tech Specs
Narrow Down By Style GT3 RS CoupeGeneral Information
MFR Model Code991850Body Type2dr CarPass Doors2Alternative NameAlternative Body2dr CarDrivetrainRear Wheel DriveOriginal Pricing
MSRP$213,400.00Invoice$0.00Destination Charge$1,250.00Engine & Powertrain
TypeFlat 6 Cylinder EngineDisplacement L/CI4.0/Fuel TypeGasoline FuelHorsepower520.0 @ 8250Fuel Economy0.0 City / 0.0 HighwayFuel Capacity64.0 LNet Torque346.0 @ 6000Tech Specs
Manufactured ByGermany PorscheSuspension Type - FrontStrut Suspension Type - RearMulti-Link Front Tire SizeP265/35YR20 Rear Tire SizeP325/30YR21 Brake ABS System4-Wheel Front Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness16.1, 15 in 15.0 min 16.1 maxRear Brake Rotor Diam x Thickness15.4, 15 in 15.0 min 15.4 maxWheelbase96.6 in 96.6 min 96.6 max
01-27-2019, 02:12 PM
#3718
19 lizard green 3rs WP 47k in options.
35K ADM (what he paid) He just wants to break even.
A Friends car, He bought it, then got allocation for the 2rs(the yellow one in photo). Has to sell this one. I think around 11 miles on the clock(have to double check). Car is in Long Island NY
01-27-2019, 02:38 PM
#3719
Breakeven on a 35k ADM .........those don’t even exist anymore. Yikes .....
01-27-2019, 02:53 PM
#3720
Hope your friend didn't pay a huge ADM on the 2RS because he'll lose that too.