On the other hand what do the people who believe values are over inflated on the 2RS specifically deem necessary for a vehicle to be special enough to hold or go up in price as opposed to depreciation?

1. Number of cars produced? Where should the cut off be...250 USA cars like the 918....600 like the upcoming Speedster... Are under 1000 units like the 2RS too many and 600 okay? Ferrari will be producing at least 1000 Pistas which will all be sold originally at MSRP but then at least 60+ on the secondary market.

2. Does the car need to be priced better than the competitors to begin with? Pistas around $400, Huracan performante Coupe $350, 720S $350 plus... 2RS seems like a bargain

3. How does the 2RS compare in performance? Documented as the fastest Nurburgring production car (MR) or second behind SVJ unmodified. Also fastest VIR lightning lap time.

Not impressed yet...there is no hope for you!

You have have not answered my question. Assuming everyone agrees that the vehicle performs as well as cars costing 75k to 125k more, and is produced in lower quantities than those cars, why will supply exceed demand?

Exactly my point, the car performs and is just as enjoyable as cars costing 400k....and there are less 2RS’s produced than any of the others. Sure there are speculators which will cause market fluctuations but I am optimistic about the potential for this car to maintain it’s value long term. It’s just that special in performance, value, production numbers and overall feel good factor if you ever have any opportunity to look at one and sit behind the wheel like I did yesterday (no, it wasn’t mine and I don’t own one).

The issue with the other cars, and I own some of them, is that they are not as bullitproof as the Porsches. The other cars need to ge babied to a certain extent whereas the Porsche can withstand a beating. Unless the competition is a very limited production vehcle, they will usually suffer a greater percentage of depreciation. I think at sticker the GT2rs makes sense. Less so with the premium, even though I bit and bought one under such circumstances. What can I say other than I want the fastest production car that Porsche has ever made and one of the fastest cars arond the ‘Ring, That is no BS, but fact. I think that is the attraction and what provides the long tern value.

April 2019

And I think you are wrong, the Porsche is a better, more reliable car as others have demonstrated and has a smaller total production volume. It is priced the same or better than the competitors even with some premium , and it outperformed anything else available. Incidentally, the last GT2 was built 8 years ago so keep waiting for the 992 version that is “better”. Even Porsche admitted that the target for the 918 successor is a 6:30 lap time which is within 10 seconds of the current 2RS MR. Regardless, it does come down to how many cars are for sale and how many people are interested. Where we differ is that I believe more people will want to own this particular vehicle than you do. To me, it seems irrelevant whether there are 50 or 250 of these cars on the market since this vehicle has proven itself as highly desirable to more people than that. Even if all 1000 were available, there are likely more than 1000 people still willing to pay MSRP or more. Using your philosophy, no Porsche would ever be collectible or gain in value disputing known facts. It is not mathematically valid to say that the upcoming Speedster will be more collectible than the 2RS because there will be a few hundred more 2Rs’s built. You are discussing inventories like a few hundred cars makes a difference in a world of thousands of enthusiasts.

This was very well said and I mostly agree. I am aware of some cars that have recently sold in the 150 prem sphere because of the perceived vale of certain colors. I disagree that those cars should be in that ange, but hey they sold at FMV. In addition, some allocations commanded a healthy premium, I would guess around 100, because the slot was an open config. That was not totally unfair. I was willing to pay 150 a while ago for a few cool builds. That woukd not be the case today. Maybe a lot of people are not even exploring the market bc they are not aware of the softening of prices.

Can anyone speculate what would happen to the value of the current 3& 2 rs if the 992 3/3rs power was bumped to naturally aspirated 550+ ?