911 Carrera T
#46
SJW, a Carin' kinda guy
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It would miss the point of the exercise. Lightweight base model with go fast kit. Sport classic may be the next special edition and that should be based on an S or GTS. That being said, LWBs may become available as an option across the range like they did at the end of the 997 era. Of course, that assumes Leer can make enough to satisfy demand. Some crazy percentage (well over a majority) of GT3s are ordered with them.
Other than 6MT/NA, what more could we ask for in the model? A 911T instead of 911 Carrera T badge?
Other than 6MT/NA, what more could we ask for in the model? A 911T instead of 911 Carrera T badge?
#47
Race Director
Originally Posted by Loess
Come on. Everyone needs to market a product. What exactly are they overhyping here?
Look at the GT2RS marketing. You'd think they were having a hard time selling those things.
Look at the GT2RS marketing. You'd think they were having a hard time selling those things.
It’s just the same old repetitive script with a different story line.
Overhyped and under deliver the product, or under deliver the supply.
The aggressive price increases are going to start hitting a ceiling. The turbo Carrera’s and 4 banger 718’s aren’t getting much love in the US.
#49
#50
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Originally Posted by Lapis
I guess when you get down to it, this car is the answer the to the question, “if you had to buy a modern 911 as a purist driver’s car, and you couldn’t afford a GT3 much less a GTS, and you also have something against the GT4 and 981 Spyder, and if you also can’t possibly consider buying a used 991.1 anything (or none of those are available to buy anywhere anymore)...”
Well, if all that were true, then yeah, the new 911T would be the car for you.
Well, if all that were true, then yeah, the new 911T would be the car for you.
If all else fails.. then yes, its the best base 911 you can buy. But, why would everything else fail?
And Let’s not forget the competition from other manufacturers who are actually working hard to produce great competing products at much more aggressive prices.
#51
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US press release.
Not much new, but confirms LWBs for US and mandatory rear seat delete with LWBs. No mention of radio delete.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=1053
Not much new, but confirms LWBs for US and mandatory rear seat delete with LWBs. No mention of radio delete.
http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=1053
#53
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Smart on Porsche's part. Gets the M3/4 buyer who wants a 911 but is too stubborn to considering anything but an S (or better) behind the wheel of what is essentially a base car, and makes them feel proud about it (not that there's anything wrong with a base 911).
#55
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Not in the UK my friend, allocations appear fewer than for the 991.1, they're all gone, **** people are being told wait a year for a Turbo S.
I love my car but I think I might sell it before the 992 announcement and move on.
I love my car but I think I might sell it before the 992 announcement and move on.
#56
Note shorter gearing = torque multiplier, plus 450Nm @ 1700rpm, so you have SPASM, RAS and PTV in a car thats lighter than a 991.1 GT3.
Add MPSC2N1 and I think this car may surprise a few people. Short gearing and loads of torque is the winning recipe used by rally cars. It'll be great in the hills and twisties.
For a lot of people this car will make sense.
Add MPSC2N1 and I think this car may surprise a few people. Short gearing and loads of torque is the winning recipe used by rally cars. It'll be great in the hills and twisties.
For a lot of people this car will make sense.
Last edited by randr; 10-23-2017 at 05:29 AM.
#58
Three Wheelin'
I like it. I always liked the base carrera best besides the GT3 in the 911 lineup. All versions in between I consider waste of money. Well, "the base" just got "base-ier" and better from a drivers perspective ! What's not to like ? Nice job !
#60
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Note shorter gearing = torque multiplier, plus 450Nm @ 1700rpm, so you have SPASM, RAS and PTV in a car thats lighter than a 991.1 GT3.
Add MPSC2N1 and I think this car may surprise a few people. Short gearing and loads of torque is the winning recipe used by rally cars. It'll be great in the hills and twisties.
For a lot of people this car will make sense.
Add MPSC2N1 and I think this car may surprise a few people. Short gearing and loads of torque is the winning recipe used by rally cars. It'll be great in the hills and twisties.
For a lot of people this car will make sense.
Also the 911T is not lighter than a 991 GT3 if ordered with the same equipment as the radio is considered standard on the GT3 but is not standard on the 911T. Also the 911T weight is calculated using the manual for the base weight. You specifically mentioned the 991.1 GT3 which is PDK only, if you compare the 911T to the current 991.2 GT3 with a manual, the 911T is clearly heavier.
Turbo engines are heavier than NA engines and always will be.