Petevb

Ok, let’s see, because some of what you’re saying seems contradictory.

Previously you’d said that the 997 GT3’s rear tires were pointing away from the apex mid corner while the 991s GT3s with RWS were pointing towards it. Do you now agree that mid corner they are all pointing in the same direction, it’s the angle of the vehicle bodies which is different?

Please point me to the link that says that sheer stress on the contact patch is effected in any way in the condition above. Mid corner, same tires, same direction, same loads- macro or micro is immaterial, the sheer stress is identical. I’d appreciate it if you could explain why you think otherwise.

quickxotica

33lbs? Thanks, that’s more than I would have guessed.

Loess

randr, wouldn't the higher normal force in the 911 result in higher friction resistance in the tire? Pete's graph shows that a significant amount of lateral force can be resisted in the tire even at high slip angles.

I believe there is something with RWS that decreases the lateral force in the tire which makes it able to travel faster through the corner. Like most materials the tire must be shearing to some extent to provide its ultimate resistance but it can still provide significant resistance below the peak.

So much of traction limit seems to be related to suspension movements and slight weight loading and unloading.

FORENN

sgroer

Old thread, but I'll say that I have one of these now with a manual and RWS and I think it's basically a perfect car. For all around fun and enjoyment it's by far my favorite 911 I've ever had. I love the GT cars, but driving them should be an event - a special Mountain Drive, a Track Day, etc. DD'ing a GT car makes you numb to how special they are IMO.

I drive the Carrera T everywhere. In the rain, gravel roads, mountain runs, to the grocery store. And it dazzles me every. single. time. It's so perfectly packaged.

Gravs

Great to hear! How is steering feel compared to a GT? Have found regular 991s lifeless but they're supposed to be getting better.

sgroer

Not as good as a GT but it's not supposed to be. I'd say it's still pretty damn good. I've never caught myself thinking that the feeling is anything short of great for what the car is intended for. My car came with power steering plus. I have no idea if/how that affects it.

chillindrdude

Are most dealerships able to acquire T allocations at will? Are they still available?

tgavem

sgroer; congrats, I'm with you, a great driver and a lot of fun daily driving with the low end torque.

Steering; The GT cars comes from the factory with a much more aggressive toe and camber than the T, so if you change those settings on your T, you will feel improvements in feel, feed back and turn in.

If you think the car is a little soft, Elephant racing offer a kit with increased spring stiffness and retains stock coil overs.

https://www.elephantracing.com/porsc...-kits-for-991/

rosenbergendo

With that suspension upgrade and a simple Cobb tune and exhaust the car is pretty stout and fun!

wolfmobil

I think T is a great car. I wish it could be ordered with comfort seats and rear seat delete.

928cs

Is it not the case? In Europe, it is possible.

evilfij

Porsch

I am wondering this, too. I have two friends looking. I know one of them has been calling around a lot and he's had no luck. So I'm not sure if the T is done, at least in terms of speccable allocations. If anyone finds otherwise, I'd appreciate a heads up!

sgroer

They have made less than 800 T's for NA and allocations are very thin. My understanding is that there are a few sitting around.

I know of one T allocation at MSRP. PM me if you want the info.