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Actually, most people don't have
the patience & drive to get a truly
'unique' color feasibility tested for
Paint-to-Sample on their custom
order. More than 90+% choose
at PTS color requested, tested,
approved & ordered by someone
else! So much for 'unique'!
Here are a few attempts to get to
a 'unique' PTS color for their Porsche
custom order. Some were approved
...others denied. But at least they
gave it a shot:
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Any of you, if you have a dealer & PCNA on
your side, can request feasibility on a PTS
color. I always say that you can try to get
your wife's lipstick approved...and you might
get it done! The program is called 'Paint-to-
Sample' for a reason! But it takes time &
effort to get it done.
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In my few years at Rennlist tracking PTS, I only
remember a few Rennlisters even attempt to get
a color they wanted approved for PTS by Porsche!
They are, if memory serves me well, as follows:
djcxxx - 'Tangerine/Bloodorange' - Not Successful Brett - 'Storm Black Pearl Metallic' - Successful Green Lantern - 'Chartreuse or Linden Green' - Successful Less than 3 mph - 'Signal Orange' - Not Successful Anonymous 918 - 'coppaflorioblau' & 'Light Blue Celeste/Pantone 552C' - No on the first & Yes on the second! rave426 - 'Arrow Blue' - Successful evilfig - Not yet disclosed to public...about to start feasibility!
So if you truly want a unique color for your PTS
order, get to work!
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The process is not 'confidential', however. So
others will know the color is undergoing feasibility
study because the PTS list regularly updated by
Porsche does list any 'new' color requested for
feasibility & approval. For example, 'hot rod
pink metallic' has been 'outed'! But unless
it's a vintage/historic color at Porsche or another
automotive brand, that revelation will not signify
anything of 'value' to a copycat!
Regardless, good luck to all on their quest for
a 'unique' PTS!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Ohhhh those dripping lips. Now you're talking dirty Eduardo! Seriously, if you came to Porsche with a legitimate color from another marque like Ferrari, would they be more likely to quickly approve it. I am thinking Rosso Fiorano
If you want unique stay away from the viper, signal, Mexico, riviera and voodoo. Not that unique and a very high % get this when going PTS.
Perhaps, but the window being open for PTS on GT cars doesn't always leave much time for considering the options. At least, that was my experience.
Originally Posted by MKW
you forgot .... not only was it prev approved but it was a production metallic in 2013
Image shows " Watery Diarrhea " , as opposed to " Bright-Red-Blood Diarrhea " to its right and " Venous Hemorroid Blue " behind it :
I was looking at a Lime Gold car last week and it is growing on me.
Originally Posted by rick brooklyn
Voodoo is a Toyota color right? so probably the least unique PTS of all
Not exactly. Toyota has a similar color with the same name, but it is not precisely the same.
Originally Posted by Z356
Photos 'lie', as you well know Daniel. This is actually
an early 991 'Cognac Metallic' (a color briefly offered
in the .1 991 & quickly discontinued) that was a PCNA
car. See the license plate of both cars!
I think I remember seeing that car in NJ right around the time the 991 was released. I had one on order and that was the first 991 I had seen on the road.
Seriously, if you came to Porsche with a
legitimate color from another marque like
Ferrari, would they be more likely to quickly
approve it. I am thinking Rosso Fiorano
I don't think it matters if it's a color from
Ferrari, Alfa, Peugeot or BMW...it would all
be handled the same way! The 'feasibility'
is supposed to be for testing against fading,
paint coverage, etc. over the metal & plastic
components of the exterior of a Porsche.
PAG is worried about liability during the
warranty period...that's their principal &
overwhelming concern!. It's not a PC driven
or with any other 'agenda'! Some colors from
competing brands are approved, some are not.
It doesn't seem to me that a color from any
particular external 'marque' is targeted for
either quick approval or automatic rejection!
See the list I have compiled by a cursory
review of the 7/31/2017 PTS list:
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If we see 'Warsaw Pact Green' get rejected
after 'Nato Olive' has been approved, we will
have to revisit this topic!
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Originally Posted by 96redLT4
Ohhhh those dripping lips. Now you're
talking dirty Eduardo!
It's just a little saliva, 96redLT4, please
don't get too excited!
Since that image is hard for you to handle,
let me provide a different 'model' just for
you! But the principle stays the same!
PAG is willing to match your 'wife's' lipstick
in a Paint-To-Sample hue, no matter if she
drools...or not!
Eduardo,
on that last public list from a couple of years ago I don't recall seeing color code 516 (Desert Beige / Sahara Beige), do you know if it was rejected or if nobody requested it (I find it hard to believe, one of the classic IROC colors).
Eduardo,
on that last public list from a couple of years
ago I don't recall seeing color code 516 (Desert
Beige / Sahara Beige), do you know if it was
rejected or if nobody requested it (I find it hard
to believe, one of the classic IROC colors).
'Sahara Beige' Color Code 516
Standard Color offered starting MY1974
I don't even see it on the latest PAG PTS list,
approved, rejected or under feasibility. My
guess is that nobody has yet requested it!
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'Sahara Beige', color code 516, was indeed
one of the colors of the IROC Porsche RSRs.
For a complete list of the IROC colors, see an
earlier post I wrote at link below:
Eduardo, if someone submits a color for feasibility and it's denied, can they then pick another PTS color off the approved list? Or do they have to pick a std color depending on how long the testing takes?
Interesting info about the feasibility study being guided by liability, fading, coverage, etc. Makes sense, but I always figured it was a bit more subjective.
Eduardo, if someone submits a color for feasibility
and it's denied, can they then pick another PTS
color off the approved list? Or if this falls outside
of the PTS window, do they have to pick a std color?
Feasibility color requests should be done at least
one year ahead of your intended allocation for a
custom order. If you are trying to get a limited
availability Porsche model (gt3, gt3 RS, gt2 RS,
gt4, Boxster Spyder or any Limited Edition),
you should pick a PTS color already approved by
PAG. You do not have time to start a feasibility
test that will probably not be decided by the time
you need to lock in your order! In the case of
'Chartreuse/Linden Green', Green Lantern started
the process through Brett at Sonnen almost 1 1/2
years before it was approved! Some, like 'Arrow
Blue', has apparently taken less than a year!
Rejections also take time...although the 'Nein'
for 'Tangerine', 'Signal Orange' & 'Continental
Orange' (all vintage early 911 colors) came
rather quickly, which made me wonder if color
politics was involved!
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Originally Posted by MatthiasAK
Do we know anything about the feasibility testing?
Do they slap it on a panel and have a panel of color
wizards subjectively decide whether it's worthy? Or
how does it work?
The three or more automotive paint suppliers
to PAG are tasked to determine if a requested
PTS color meets the criteria they have established
for acceptability. They are looking at 'fading',
'coverage', compatibility with the exterior
materials used in the model (steel, aluminum,
alloys, plastic, etc), what best 'primer' to use
with it, etc. Porsche is interested in minimizing
their liability against any/all future paint warranty
claims. That is the principal reason for the feasibility
testing.
Every so often, a popular color is deemed no
longer acceptable (for the risk) & it's taken off
the PTS list. That was the case after MY2010
with the very popular 'RS Orange', color code 8C6, which was formulated for & introduced
in the 2007 997 gt3 RS! It was also later used
in Boxster & Cayman 'Limited Editions', plus
allowed to be ordered via PTS since MY2008:
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The only time I have worried that there is
some 'politics' behind approving a color for
PTS involves the rejections of Porsche's own
vintage/historic colors too close to the date
when PAG introduced color formulations in
'similar' (perhaps to them, not me!) hues!
These new hues were selected by the highly
paid color fashionistas at PAG...you know,
the Einsteins that brought us 'Lime Gold
Metallic' in the 991!
Thus I found suspect when 'Tangerine',
'Continental Orange' & 'Signal Orange'
were rejected in quick succession just after
the introduction of the controversial 'Lava
Orange'. Or when the vintage early 911
'Aubergine' was turned down after
'UltraViolet' debutted! At least the
latter is a fabulous color that will be
remembered in Porsche color history...
something that might elude 'Lava Orange'!
In general, PAG is very conservative in paint
technology, mostly to avoid warranty liability
headaches. Note that they do NOT offer
'Frozen' or 'Matte' finishes (unlike most
other German auto makers - BMW, MB, Audi).
And they limited the complicated (it involves
magnetic orientation of metal flakes at application)
'Liquid Metal' paints to the 918 Spyder (& one
VIP -Jerry Seinfeld's- 991 gt3 RS). And recently,
they announced that their unusual & complex
'Phyton Green' Chromeflair paints would be
limited to just five (5) 911 Turbo S per year!
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So when you add the limited PTS slots they have
chosen to allow per model & their 'confidential'
label even on the PTS list, maybe 'conservative'
is too soft & liberal of a term to use when talking
about Porsche & paint. A more appropiate word
might be 'restrictive'. They damn sure are that!
Sepia brown has been approved for years. Don't know how many were painted this colour, but possibly only one or two. It has been described as baby diarrhea, but it could be a nice colour on the right car.
Not sure this one's Sepia brown but looks close.
Back to the OP's question, I wouldn't necessarily aim to be unique. You can't predict what others are getting. Case in point, I got what was a very rare colour when I ordered it (Fashion grey), but subsequently there have been quite a few more of them, including 10 GT3s made by Porsche and 25 RRV editions, etc... and now there's chalk which is similar. Voodoo is amazing, that's why there are so many of them. Just get what you want and don't worry about the next guy.
I love rossa corsa. I posted before about trying to get PTS rossa corsa for my .2 GT3, but I was discouraged from doing so, by rennlist posters who felt that Ferrari "owned" that color and no one should dare consider ordering their Porsche in that color.
There's a Rosso Corsa 16 GT3RS here in the states and it looks very good
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