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Old 10-12-2017, 04:27 PM
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Default Looking at a 991.1 GT3 as a track day car...

I hope to get some advice, I sold my 458 last year and currently drive a 991.2 Targa GTS, but I want to get something that I can take on the track about 6x a year. The Targa GTS is a little heavy and I don't like all that weight up high in the back. Prices for 991.1 GT3 seem reasonable right now. I searched and read about lots of problems with the 991.1 engines and how they need to be replaced, other problems, etc. To be honest, it is a little overwhelming. Any advice on what to look for/ask for? I am looking at 2014 and 2015 GT3s. Prices in Canada at dealers are priced in the $160,000 - $170,000 range. Thanks for your help.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:36 PM
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Lots of good examples out there, with the new warranty not too much to worry about, I would avoid any of the auctioned cars. It is still easy to hide a damaged car from carfax etc so an auctioned car is a bit of a flag. look for one on schedule with maintenance and like all the obvious, lower miles, later model year and you will want the LWB as the sofas just don't support enough for track days. Make sure it's CPO and enjoy!
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:41 PM
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Don't worry about the engine issues. Porsche has stood behind the ones that have been problems. They're great track cars. LWB is a nice option but hard to find. There are aftermarket race seats that will just fine.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:46 PM
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i had both a 991.1 GT3 and RS and to me, the GT3 was the more tossable and easier-to-control car at the limit. If I could choose one to be my track car, I would get the GT3 over RS all day. I would try to get a '15 or '16 if possible, and sport bucket seats are a must-have. I would imagine 10-20k below MSRP is fair. and white is always faster.

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Old 10-12-2017, 04:49 PM
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Hey, I'm local and waiting on .2 gt3. I would say, wait until deep into winter.. jan/feb time. Prices have been slowly coming down to reality and they will dip further when we start to receive more deliveries/allocations of the .2..

The engine issues will make them harder to move and could work in your favor.. and while the warranty is there, I would not buy one..

Are you on a list for a .2?

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Old 10-12-2017, 05:00 PM
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Like RealityGT said, I would wait for a bit until the prices come down some more, and by then maybe you could find a 16' with a G engine, which to my knowledge haven't seen any failures yet and have some updated top end parts. If not, and a 14' or 15' is what you find, buy it, drive the snot out of it and if(when) the engine goes you will get a new one from Porsche. Good luck in finding your new track car, you will have a blast in a GT3.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:00 PM
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You wonít be disappointed. I recently did the same thing. Got nowhere trying to get a gt3.2 allocation in Houston but found a certified low-mile gt3.1 in the color I wanted. Didnít have buckets but had everything else. Dealer gave me a good deal on it (msrp) and on my trade in (Carrera S). Dailyíd it for 3-4 months but realized itís much more special as a weekend/fun/track car. Will trade it in if I eventually find a gt3.2 allocation but wonít be too disappointed if I donít.
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Old 10-13-2017, 03:02 AM
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Hats off to you for taking this step forward. I think it's the right call if you can find the right car. Less intimidating than an RS but just as competent for 95% of the drivers out there, and you get to enjoy that thrill without the mental burden of the extra cost of an RS.

As .2 owners take delivery you'll see an increasing supply of .1 cars--trust that will play to your advantage.
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Slightly off message for me to recommend this but if the car is going to be soley used for track work I'd look at an Ariel Atom or Caterham. This will give you much lower running costs, exciting and just as quick...
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Originally Posted by Mr Fish View Post
Slightly off message for me to recommend this but if the car is going to be soley used for track work I'd look at an Ariel Atom or Caterham. This will give you much lower running costs, exciting and just as quick...
Yea I keep looking into dedicated track cars with lower running costs but the warranty and ability to sell the car later just keeps me in the GTs........still I may have to get into the dedicated track cars too much fun
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....still I may have to get into the dedicated track cars too much fun
......but then you will need a trailer, and a truck to tow it with. You will then get sick of driving the truck around, and the fact that the dedicated track car sits around so much taking up space and cant be driven on the streets.
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You don't need to trailer as Atoms and Caterhams are Road legal, well they are in UK.... Also great fun for a Summers days blast around B roads..
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What about a BAC Mono?
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Guy's, OP is from my city.. he needs something for 6x track days/weekends a year.. lol not a dedicated track car.
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Old 10-16-2017, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by KenTO View Post
I hope to get some advice, I sold my 458 last year and currently drive a 991.2 Targa GTS, but I want to get something that I can take on the track about 6x a year. The Targa GTS is a little heavy and I don't like all that weight up high in the back. Prices for 991.1 GT3 seem reasonable right now. I searched and read about lots of problems with the 991.1 engines and how they need to be replaced, other problems, etc. To be honest, it is a little overwhelming. Any advice on what to look for/ask for? I am looking at 2014 and 2015 GT3s. Prices in Canada at dealers are priced in the $160,000 - $170,000 range. Thanks for your help.
itís a slippery slope this DE thing
A lot of us on here I would suspect had the intention of 5-6 days per year until we were big by the bug.


Usually starts with simple mods to intake, exhaust, tune , alignment, better pads and rotors.... then as you get better and speeds increase, second (or third!) set of wheels and tires and suddenly youíve bought a tow vehicle, trailer, roll cage, harnesses, HANS...selling organs for tire budget etc...

i did 26 days this year...when I started 6 years ago it was 6 days.... I would have done more if I had the time and wife approval 😕

Anyway, back to your OP, The GT3 for me strikes the perfect balance of street and track (I do not say ďrace
carĒ) car, which can be kept as-is without modifications and still be quicker than 90% of all other cars in your respective run group abilities.
mine has been bullet proof so far and canít beat that 9k RPM sound on track that you will likely never see on the street without jail time.

wish it had 5 lug wheels and a real oil dipstick but other than that I love mine....an additional word of advicejust donít drive an RS though!
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