Buying a GT2 RS: My Unfortunate Dealings with Porsche of the Main Line
#16
Believe AP
I am really sorry to hear about your experience. But I can't say I'm surprised after my conversation with the manager at a Porsche dealer in the northeast after seeing this ad on their website:
Available to the public! Anyone can go buy it today! How much do they want? They want you to sign a second *contract* that promises you will pay them whatever over MSRP the cars are trading for "on the second hand market" at the time of delivery. I had to ask the manager to repeat this with examples 3 times, as I was in disbelief. So if a car REPORTEDLY sells for $850,000 anywhere in the world, you owe them an additional half million dollars for your brand new car.
I can't even imagine this is legal. This is not a stock; there is no agreed market value. How can they ask you to sign a contract like that? I am sure others here have come across this dealership.
I honestly have half a mind to report these people to PCNA.
Available to the public! Anyone can go buy it today! How much do they want? They want you to sign a second *contract* that promises you will pay them whatever over MSRP the cars are trading for "on the second hand market" at the time of delivery. I had to ask the manager to repeat this with examples 3 times, as I was in disbelief. So if a car REPORTEDLY sells for $850,000 anywhere in the world, you owe them an additional half million dollars for your brand new car.
I can't even imagine this is legal. This is not a stock; there is no agreed market value. How can they ask you to sign a contract like that? I am sure others here have come across this dealership.
I honestly have half a mind to report these people to PCNA.
#17
#19
#21
Rennlist Member
^ I do not know what cars you bought from them, and glad to hear that you were well treated. I never contacted this dealer, so really don't know them. But based on experience with my dealer, I can guarantee that if you get there to buy a Cayenne, Panamera, CS, 718 or so you will be treated like royalty. My friends still thank me for recommending them to my SA. They will give you key rings, mugs and offer capuccinos for the whole family, introduce you to your new service rep, etc. However, in the same way that some say that you only meet the real person your wife is is during divorce proceedings ( never gone through that, so cannot comment either, but the stories I hear...) you only see who your dealer really is is when you tell them you want a GT car.
OP, hopefully this was just an idiot SA, or a joke, or an email sent to the wrong client. If not, I hope you have enough documentation to bring them to Court.
One day we might find an article published in the Harvard Business Review with the following title "How Porsche North America Let Some of Its US Dealers Destroy one of the Most Valuable Brands Ever - A Case Study"... not too different from United or the genius at Best Buy in Houston that tried to make a few extra bucks by selling water with ADM. Imo, PCNA deserves its United moment.
OP, hopefully this was just an idiot SA, or a joke, or an email sent to the wrong client. If not, I hope you have enough documentation to bring them to Court.
One day we might find an article published in the Harvard Business Review with the following title "How Porsche North America Let Some of Its US Dealers Destroy one of the Most Valuable Brands Ever - A Case Study"... not too different from United or the genius at Best Buy in Houston that tried to make a few extra bucks by selling water with ADM. Imo, PCNA deserves its United moment.
#22
^ Sammy is the biggest douche. approx 2 years ago they changed their sales tactics. They were a small time dealer, then opened a new sales floor across the street. Now all of their GT cars are above MSRP. They don't care for existing customers.
#23
#26
Back to the OP, the owner of the dealership has a nice stable of personal cars, wonder if he wants the allocation for himself....
#27
Rennlist Member
"One day we might find an article published in the Harvard Business Review with the following title "How Porsche North America Let Some of Its US Dealers Destroy one of the Most Valuable Brands Ever - A Case Study"... not too different from United or the genius at Best Buy in Houston that tried to make a few extra bucks by selling water with ADM. Imo, PCNA deserves its United moment."
I have 27 p cars over the years and presently have 4.
I think that qualifies for brand loyalty.
My dealer in Greenwich CT . pulled a similar thing on me .
and they still have my deposit .I'm pissed also.
I think we need to start a dealer" Black list " and get it all over these boards.
Lets see if PCNA cares about their reputation especially in the eyes of their best customers.
What do you guys think?
Elliot
I have 27 p cars over the years and presently have 4.
I think that qualifies for brand loyalty.
My dealer in Greenwich CT . pulled a similar thing on me .
and they still have my deposit .I'm pissed also.
I think we need to start a dealer" Black list " and get it all over these boards.
Lets see if PCNA cares about their reputation especially in the eyes of their best customers.
What do you guys think?
Elliot
#29
"One day we might find an article published in the Harvard Business Review with the following title "How Porsche North America Let Some of Its US Dealers Destroy one of the Most Valuable Brands Ever - A Case Study"... not too different from United or the genius at Best Buy in Houston that tried to make a few extra bucks by selling water with ADM. Imo, PCNA deserves its United moment."
I have 27 p cars over the years and presently have 4.
I think that qualifies for brand loyalty.
My dealer in Greenwich CT . pulled a similar thing on me .
and they still have my deposit .I'm pissed also.
I think we need to start a dealer" Black list " and get it all over these boards.
Lets see if PCNA cares about their reputation especially in the eyes of their best customers.
What do you guys think?
Elliot
I have 27 p cars over the years and presently have 4.
I think that qualifies for brand loyalty.
My dealer in Greenwich CT . pulled a similar thing on me .
and they still have my deposit .I'm pissed also.
I think we need to start a dealer" Black list " and get it all over these boards.
Lets see if PCNA cares about their reputation especially in the eyes of their best customers.
What do you guys think?
Elliot
All for it, but others will continue to pay ADM while economy is good...
#30
Three Wheelin'
SHAGG is the most standup Porsche guy out there, really the guy Porsche built themselves on.
It's not just terrible they lowballed you on your 458 but they then held your funds for a 2.5 years in good faith that you would get a car at MSRP. Honestly, makes me sick.
Id suggest this. Buy the car at their ADM and sell it for 400k over or whatever market is and go buy yourself a 458 Speciale. F them.
It's not just terrible they lowballed you on your 458 but they then held your funds for a 2.5 years in good faith that you would get a car at MSRP. Honestly, makes me sick.
Id suggest this. Buy the car at their ADM and sell it for 400k over or whatever market is and go buy yourself a 458 Speciale. F them.