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Old 09-28-2017, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rave426
Lol....my little secret is out. I requested
this color for testing in March.
Rave:

Can you please explain to the Rennlist
readers what you had to do to make this
request, was a color sample needed to
be provided by you, who was the friendly
dealer that made this request to PAG, was
it done without ordering a Porsche from
them, etc. We need to educate the
readership on this PTS color request
process so that more people try to get
their desired color approved for PTS!

Some people still don't believe that the
PTS list grows every few months to
include new colors requested by Porsche
customers worldwide. And these color
PTS requests can be vintage Porsche
colors from the past (like 'Arrow' & a
certain historic 'Green' color that is
going to be feasibility tested for Evil
himself!
) But you can also
request new colors that have no
relationship to Porsche heritage
hues...and everything to do with
a wife's or girlfriend's 'lipstick' color!



So 'Paint-to-Sample' can work as advertised
But you need to know how to ask for it & get
it done!



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Originally Posted by SEB74
Hi Eduardo,
You are very sure guy about the PTS color,
thanks for your help! Do you know if there
is a pts window on the way for the gt2 rs?
A very sure guy? I am sure only about
two things in life...taxes & death. And
in that order. But thanks for the oblique
compliment!

I do not follow news on the 991 gt2 RS...
so I do not know if PAG will allow PTS on
this model & if so, what will be the PTS
window for it. I am more concerned with
the upcoming 718 Spyder & PTS for that
model!

Saludos,
Eduardo
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:14 PM
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Secret colors

There are colors that are approved for PTS that are not on the list. Don’t ask me how I know, but there are. Some are the crazy chromaflair ones (python green), others are normal cost. Basically if you find a picture of 991 painted in a color you like and it is not on the list, ask exclusive and they will tell you. Hint: the color there was a lot of discussion about two years ago as a potential new green color is available PTS even though it is not on the list. Also some of the special edition colors are available, but not listed on the PTS list — that I recall anyway. Of course, you can request feasibility for a color of your choosing. You just have to wait for it to be approved (or not) to get an order approved with that color (otherwise you get V100 rejected).

And yes Eduardo, my color is under feasibility (still). I just will have to buy another Porsche to have it painted on because my GT3T is going to be black.
Old 09-28-2017, 07:35 PM
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Arrow is #1 on my list. Great color
Old 09-28-2017, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
Secret colors

There are colors that are approved for PTS
that are not on the list. Don’t ask me how
I know
, but there are. Some are the crazy
chromaflair ones (python green), others are
normal cost. Basically if you find a picture
of 991 painted in a color you like and it is
not on the list, ask exclusive and they will
tell you. Hint: the color there was a lot of
discussion about two years ago as a potential
new green color is available PTS even though
it is not on the list. Also some of the special
edition colors are available, but not listed on
the PTS list — that I recall anyway. Of course,
you can request feasibility for a color of your
choosing. You just have to wait for it to be
approved (or not) to get an order approved
with that color (otherwise you get V100 rejected).

And yes Eduardo, my color is under feasibility
(still). I just will have to buy another Porsche
to have it painted on because my GT3T is going
to be black.
Evil:

I am not impressed with your response (above).
It's drawing attention to yourself & not to the
PTS program. And I am kind of sorry I help you
out in the first place with your PTS color request.
I will not make that mistake again!

My hope here is to provide transparency in all
subjects related to PTS & I don't appreciate folks
'dangling' so-called 'secret' information to our
forum which is neither 'secret' nor 'new'!

Some colors not on the approved list & allowed
to be ordered for PTS have been 'Geyser Grey'
(911 50th Anniversary hue) & 'Sport Classic Grey'
(997 Limited Edition hue). We still don't know
why PAG allowed a few customers to order these
colors via PTS. And at the time it happened, we
reported it here on this forum (in our PTS threads)
& let everyone know about it. Our purpose here
is to disseminate correct & helpful information to
the readership of Rennlist. And I don't appreciate
those using 'secret' PTS non-info to draw attention
to themselves!

Also all should know that 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
are just administrators for PTS. They don't have
a say or voice on the actual PTS program as run
by PAG. So folks should know that 'Exclusive' can
be of limited assistance to the process in many
cases...other than to show you figurines in various
PTS colors sent to them by Germany.

And while on that topic, why don't you fess up
and tell people the vintage 911 color you have
requested for PTS? If indeed it has been undergoing
feasibility testing, it will be reported soon enough!
That is a 'secret' you can disclose to the rest of
the readership now...because it will come out
sooner than later!



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Old 09-28-2017, 08:30 PM
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Eduardo- what's the new green color there was a lot of
discussion about two years ago that is now available PTS, though not on the list?

Maybe Evil is afraid if he spills the beans, his feasibility study will come to an unpleasant end? One has to exercise caution with the PTS Star Chamber
Old 09-28-2017, 08:51 PM
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Eduardo,

I should have put a winky emoji next to that line and maybe quotes around “secret.” It was very much tongue in cheek, perhaps revealing my frustration of going to the ends of the earth and then having it not quite work out in time (as you predicted). As you can probably tell, I don’t take myself too seriously and especially do not PTS too seriously as you well know it is a process! My point of saying “secret” was that the list is not quite all the available colors which I frustratingly found out while looking for a back up color. Exclusive was very helpful although there are limits and they do not have samples for every color. Some they don’t even have the code or the code does not line up with the code for the vintage color so you are ordering a color blind (they can request spray outs, but that takes a month).

To add to your list, Python Green Chromoflair (as seen recently) as well as some unnamed chromoflairs (violet I think is on the list, and I think there are three others all crazy money) and as you posted about a couple years ago as a color that might be a possible new Porsche factory color, you can get that metallic green that was seen on a couple of vehicles even though it was not on the PTS list.

And hopefully the next list will have my color on it. It has been under feasibility since June or so, but does not appear on the list with an f on the July list. With any luck it will be approved as the leaves change color this fall.

No offense intended. You have been very helpful to me (and others).




Originally Posted by Z356
Evil:

I am not impressed with your response (above).
It's drawing attention to yourself & not to the
PTS program. And I am kind of sorry I help you
out in the first place with your PTS color request.
I will not make that mistake again!

My hope here is to provide transparency in all
subjects related to PTS & I don't appreciate folks
'dangling' so-called 'secret' information to our
forum which is neither 'secret' nor 'new'!

Some colors not on the approved list & allowed
to be ordered for PTS have been 'Geyser Grey'
(911 50th Anniversary hue) & 'Sport Classic Grey'
(997 Limited Edition hue). We still don't know
why PAG allowed a few customers to order these
colors via PTS. And at the time it happened, we
reported it here on this forum (in our PTS threads)
& let everyone know about it. Our purpose here
is to disseminate correct & helpful information to
the readership of Rennlist. And I don't appreciate
those using 'secret' PTS non-info to draw attention
to themselves!

Also all should know that 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
are just administrators for PTS. They don't have
a say or voice on the actual PTS program as run
by PAG. So folks should know that 'Exclusive' can
be of limited assistance to the process in many
cases...other than to show you figurines in various
PTS colors sent to them by Germany.

And while on that topic, why don't you fess up
and tell people the vintage 911 color you have
requested for PTS? If indeed it has been undergoing
feasibility testing, it will be reported soon enough!
That is a 'secret' you can disclose to the rest of
the readership now...because it will come out
sooner than later!



Eduardo
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Old 09-28-2017, 11:53 PM
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Oh that's a nice color. I'll put it on my list.
Old 09-28-2017, 11:58 PM
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US can leak any military politic business affair
but not copy and paste a PTS list...

i guess because its not a secret

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Old 09-29-2017, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Eduardo- what's the new green color
there was a lot of discussion about
two years ago that is now available
PTS, though not on the list?
I really don't know exactly the color
you are referring to. Perhaps it's
'Chartreuse' or 'Linden Green',
color code 226. Rennlister 'Green
Lantern' requested via Brett at
Sonnen. After almost 2 years, it
was finally approved! It is a vintage
color from the early 911 period!
But it's now on the approved PTS
list!






Originally Posted by mcsmcs1
Maybe Evil is afraid if he spills the
beans, his feasibility study will come
to an unpleasant end? One has to
exercise caution with the PTS Star
Chamber
Evil has no 'frijoles' to spill,
as even he will now admit!



Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
Old 09-29-2017, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fxz
US can leak any military politic business affair
but not copy and paste a PTS list...

i guess because its not a secret
PTS "Fake news" LOL
Old 09-30-2017, 07:40 AM
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Evil is correct in asking vs relying on the list. My Arrow Blue selection for the GT3 was given an okay in May - I'm speculating feasibility was done in relation to Footsoldier's 911 R and it still wasn't on the official list then. I was also asked by PCNA to send a spray out of the color because they didn't have one in ATL to help with CXX options.
Old 09-30-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by NateOZ
Evil is correct in asking vs relying on the list.
My Arrow Blue selection for the GT3 was given
an okay in May - I'm speculating feasibility was
done in relation to Footsoldier's 911 R and it still
wasn't on the official list then. I was also asked
by PCNA to send a spray out of the color because
they didn't have one in ATL to help with CXX options.
And you might be wrong on your speculation, Nate!
Footsoldier, as we all know, painted his 911R in P-Reading
(UK) after it's production at Zuffenhausen, so that has
nothing to do with the PAG's PTS list. His 'Arrow Blue'
918, however, is a totally different topic. But the method
for feasibility testing colors for a 918 does not translate
into an approval, or incorporation, of that color the 991/
718/Panamera/Macan/Cayenne PTS list. And 'Rave' is
claiming he is responsible for 'Arrow Blue' feasibility &
approval on the current PTS list, so we will have to wait
until he provides us further details to back up that
particular claim...which I hope he does soon.

I think you missed the point of my initial criticism of
Evil-guy for his specific post on this thread. It goes
without saying that anyone that has been given a
coveted PTS slot on his/her allocation should always
check with Porsche to see if there has been any additions
(or deletions) to the approved list before they finalize
their PTS color selection!

Eduardo
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Eduardo,

As I said, I am sorry I offended you. Just to be clear this is the color from (almost) two years ago I was referring to:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showpost...postcount=1422

It is available PTS even though it is not on the list. This is not the only example, but it is one I had to figure out. As you point out, the limited edition colors sometimes don’t appear on the list — some do like the chinese turbo metallic gold LE color. Email exclusive and they will help you. That is what I did when it was clear my color would not be approved in time before the window closed and they V100 statused my order which would kick me out of PTS. I went through every green on the list and compiled pictures and looked for other greens to identify them. I had pictures of all but six or so. Either matching the code to the historic color on a car or on a PTS car or pictures of a sample. I found some of the missing ones I did not have laser for instance (and were not on RL or other usual sources) and posted them in your thread that is a sticky. What it came down to for me was I can get my GT3 now and my color (still not on the list with an f yet even though it has been since June) if/when it is approved (my order for my C2 below is still valid although since it is a V070 I can change to whatever I want once approved and I can get another Porsche in my color). I don’t want to reveal the color although careful readers can undoubtedly figure it out.

I still don’t have a picture of a PTS in Auratium Green Metallic .... I have the 356 pics, but they are not metallic. I think every other green on the PTS I have a picture of somewhere or know where one is on RL or instagram.

I to the PTS master Eduardo.



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