destaccado

Except there's already been GT3s that were only available with a sunroof a la the 997.1

jeremyr4

I am surprised the PDK hasn't come up in this thread yet. I was hoping for back seats but I understand that's probably not possible because of the GT3 certification in the US. But why in the world didn't they include PDK as an option? I live in LA and there's no way in hell I am going to drive a manual touring around town here with our traffic. I love the fact that it's understated, can't get an NA car from Porsche anymore short of a GT3 series, and the one car they make that is understated with an NA engine now comes in manual only when the PDK order rate and use is significantly higher than 50% across the GT3 cars (I don't have the stats in front of me but I'm quite sure this is correct). So this feels like a slap in the face to someone like me and honestly the ONLY reason I can think of for Porsche to do this is to send a clear message to the 911R flippers. Great - this car isn't an option for me solely because they are sending a message to the flippers. Is that what Porsche is supposed to be about or are they supposed to be offering products that conform to what the enthusiasts want? Sorry for the rant but it's just amazing to me that this was done, as it will clearly remove some potential buyers when all it boils down to is a literal tick of the option box (if the option was made available), given that this car already exists with both transmissions!!! Ok - my rant is now done but I hope this makes sense.

As for the potential NA product line, I agree with an earlier post that with all other cars being turbocharged now Porsche should consider spawning a 911 variant that is NA. Not sure if the volume would be enough and it's probably what the GTS should but I'm thinking it could slot in somewhere between the GTS and the GT3 and perhaps be a slightly tuned version of the NA engine. Calling it a 911 GTT (GT Touring) or something similar could work, although I realize it's confusing vs the GTS. Regardless the concept makes sense...

shizzle

To me, this is the fallacy of the supposed 'hardcore' enthusiast. The touring is just one more option for the GT3, and it won't change anything in terms of who gets an allocation and doesn't cut supply in any way. And to think just cause someone wants a touring is going to track less than a person with a wing is nonsense. The people I know wanting a touring generally do at least 20 track days a season (here in Canada we got a pretty short season so that's a fair bit). And if you really want a track car, buy a Cup or Clubsport. Cause let's face it, the GT3 is a GT car with a nice engine. It stopped being a hardcore model a long time ago.

R.Deacon

Yes well aware, thanks for the reminder.
I agree with others here , that better
Offered as a build option on a GTS model, rather than deminnish the GT3 pedigree, as well as not add
More demand to the already tuff GT3 allocation challenge; and from the bottom line focus make it a big time pricey option for the
" motor sport touring package "
So a "GTST" Would cost 200+/-
Anyway congrats to guys that will get one, just a little frustrating for the track crowd which I thought was
The focus for a GT car.

R.Deacon

HEY hope you can get one GL

zmon

this is amusing to read... just because a car does not have a wing its now not a track car!?! like others have said here if you really want a track car, p makes cups and clubsports.

80% of the GT3 an GT3RS on track are not even utilizing their big **** and are getting passed by caymans with no wing

and all the 997 GT3 and GT3RS are now too scared to drive their hard core track car on the track hah

nxfedlt1

haha, right! amazed more cars don't fly off the road since they have no wings according to this forum.

Every car has a limit, drive to that, wing or no wing. There is an entire ST class of cars....with no wing.

RennOracle

Because, circlejerk. It's pretty straight forward. Those who want to track it go full Clubsport, for those who want a street car (light and understated) touring package.

In Europe, almost 100% of the people that bought a non-clubsport and sofas wouldn't mind at all a spoiler delete, for a lot of people, it's wacky and vulgar, mostly on a gt3, as it is, again, luke warm, it isn't either a full race car (type) spoiler neither it is an understated ducktail.

R.Deacon

Any P fun on the track
Even if you can't drive

misterwaterfall

I've tracked street cars, I've tracked race cars, I've raced wheel to wheel. At this point, I would rather track a street car with some safety upgrades that I can drive to and from my local tracks. I don't want a clubsport, and the subsequent trailer/truck that go with it. Many people seem to feel the same way, I don't think that is too hard to understand.

rost12

Safe to assume he was talking about the "package", i.e. half cage and harness, not one of the not road-legal race cars.

misterwaterfall

Ahh, makes sense. If only we got that package here

Lapis

agreed. But I have it from reliable source that the new Speedster, coming soon and essentially a 911 R cabriolet, with be limited to only 356 units, so it will be an exercise in limited numbered production even more limited than the 911 R was. So, too bad for the rest of us.

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Dr.Bill

Exactly. I would rather have the Clubsport option available than the Touring option.

Of course, 5-lug wheels and rear wheel steering delete would trump all other options!

I've got it! The standard GT3 should come with cast iron brakes and 5-lug wheels. Add a 'Cars & Coffee' package that includes PCCB's and center locks! Now everybody is happy!