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Old 09-12-2017, 04:31 PM
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Too bad I don't have an allocation. But this is how I would spec the car.

Jet Black Metallic
Leather/Cloth Interior Package in Black with Red Stitching
Touring Package
LED Headlights incl. Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS)
Front Axle Lift System
Sport Chrono Package
Extended Range Fuel Tank
Full Bucket Seats
$161,120

Add rollbar and I'm all set.
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Akunob View Post
Nice!! Kudos to Porsche for addressing a gap in their line-up (a car with true race car characteristics without the race car wing!). This thing is going to surprise & sneak up on a lot of people at their local HPDE track day...LOL
If you want to surprise people at track days you should probably get a GTS.
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee View Post
For the first 2/3 of the 911's existence, the car you bought at the dealer had motorsports roots without looking like a race car. A lot of us have/had 911s from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s and appreciate this relationship that the water-cooled 996, 997, and 991 911s lack, unless you opt for the GT models and their look-at-me bodywork. The 911R, and now the GT3 Touring, once again provide race car performance and pedigree without looking the part. Personally, that is why I have always liked 911s and the Porsche brand.
I get it, sorta. Where I disagree with you is that there has always been a 911 that provides race car performance without looking the part. Even the water cooled 996's offer race car performance. I regularly went toe to toe with corvettes, vipers and the like on the track with my 996, and bettered them most of the of times. My water cooled 996 certainly had better performance than any of the older air cooled generation. In the current line up, the non-GT 911S still provides race car performance, even better than the GT3's of old.
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:50 PM
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^ I said performance and pedigree. Sorry, but the M96/M97 has none.
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Old 09-12-2017, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Akunob View Post
This thing is going to surprise & sneak up on a lot of people at their local HPDE track day...LOL
I doubt anyone who specs a touring package will take it to the track. People who track know you want the wing for performance.

I'm sure there are many good reasons for a touring package but none of them would work for me - this is a track inspired vehicle. Taking the wing off is neutering a GT vehicle imho.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by levd View Post
If you want to surprise people at track days you should probably get a GTS.
That's the point, the GT3 Touring car looks like a GTS...or any other 991 for that matter. Sure the front and rear bumper are slight give-aways but its a sleeper for sure.

Originally Posted by Ducati1199 View Post
I doubt anyone who specs a touring package will take it to the track. People who track know you want the wing for performance.

I'm sure there are many good reasons for a touring package but none of them would work for me - this is a track inspired vehicle. Taking the wing off is neutering a GT vehicle imho.
I agree, however it's still a GT3 and some owners may want to see how their "Touring package" car performs on the track. A guy in a 991.1 GT3 may be surprised that he can't 'reel in' that C2S looking 991 ahead of him....upon closer inspection in the paddocks later though, the "ah ha" moment.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ducati1199 View Post
I doubt anyone who specs a touring package will take it to the track.
I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot of touring GT3s on track, at least in Europe. It's still a very fast car even with no wing.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Akunob View Post
That's the point, the GT3 Touring car looks like a GTS...or any other 991 for that matter. Sure the front and rear bumper are slight give-aways but its a sleeper for sure.
It will also perform on track very close to PDK GTS level. So where's the surprise?

And there won't be any surprised .1 GT3 owners:

a) Wingless manual .2 GT3 will be slower than .1 GT3. Much slower. Both in corners and on a straight line.

b) .1 GT3 owners will recognise any .2 GT3 from 100 feet, with or without the wing.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:16 PM
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Yesterday you could buy (maybe) a GT3.2 which is a great car.
Today, you can ask Porsche to remove the wing on the same GT3 and charge you the same amount of cash, despite it costing less to build.

That's all that's happened, and Porsche are just making more profit per unit.

I look forward to the day when you can choose a GT3 Touring as a separate model, and tick a box for an optional rear wing as a cost option... people would do it!

(PS It's still the spec I would buy if getting a GT3)
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:20 PM
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I have a .1 GT3 and an allocation for a .2. I'll buy this; I love the look of a 911 without a wing. I love 500 hp, and I love the GT3 drivetrain, more special than the standard Carrera/GTS drivetrain imo.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:24 PM
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It's pretty easy folks. If you track, want PDK, want PTS or like the look of wing you're not going to order the Touring pkg. The 911 model range is all about variety and the Touring pkg just fills another void. I'm personally a fan. Love the sleeperish look mixed with the 500hp NA experience.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by levd View Post
It will also perform on track very close to PDK GTS level. So where's the surprise?

And there won't be any surprised .1 GT3 owners:

a) Wingless manual .2 GT3 will be slower than .1 GT3. Much slower. Both in corners and on a straight line.

b) .1 GT3 owners will recognise any .2 GT3 from 100 feet, with or without the wing.
Excellent point! Agreed
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STG View Post
You won't miss the extra 95lbs. There's more of a variance here with driver weights




That's clearly a photo of a John Goodman wannabe....

For those throwing shade on the Touring package -- Porsche has a model in its line-up you're sure to like better!
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:43 PM
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What a dilemma. I just gave up my PTS allocation for a later allocation Touring Package. plus vs minus.
Pluses for the touring package - 1.no stripes on the seats,2. for manual only drivers= wifey can't drive it lol, 3.could make excuses if I lose to pdk winged gt3's at the track,lol. 4. A Little old school flavor.
Saving the wings,track suspension, and harness bars for the gt4,gt3rs, gt350R. It's hard to drive those cars to a nice dinner event.

Minuses- 1. Lost of air scoops and aeros= lost of some performance. 2. NO PTS, wanted a green 911, the frog.

At the end, this is a production street legal car, my conclusion is to make it the ultimate analog NA performance capable street car. This way I can take it out without the unwanted attention from boy racers. Tons of miles not just the once or twice a month track days.
Still have second doubts for missing the PTS allocation, which took a lot of effort to get.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Husaberg44 View Post
I am as confused as anybody else here. Something is amiss. From what we know the vast majority of allocations have been given out for this car. Everybody who received one committed to their allocation.... with a wing.
No they didn't. Most of the people who just got an allocation haven't even locked the spec on their car.
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