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Old 08-25-2017, 11:08 AM
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I need to invest in the correct tools so I can manage the center lock wheels.

Just got back from a 4 day, 1,270 mile road trip and the car was awesome! I'd like to do more trips like this but if I have a tire issue most shops can't help. I'd like to have what I need "on board" and as compact as possible. So I can help them, help me.

Can anyome provide links to required tools ?

Also anyome know what this is tool is in the video link below? A Part number or link to it would be great. Looks compact and able to apply the torque required in a small package.



Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by JSF721 View Post
I need to invest in the correct tools so I can manage the center lock wheels.

Just got back from a 4 day, 1,270 mile road trip and the car was awesome! I'd like to do more trips like this but if I have a tire issue most shops can't help. I'd like to have what I need "on board" and as compact as possible. So I can help them, help me.

Can anyome provide links to required tools ?

Also anyome know what this is tool is in the video link below? A Part number or link to it would be great. Looks compact and able to apply the torque required in a small package.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzpTU7lBxBA


Thanks in advance.
Once you use one you will never use a huge leverage bar again. Here's what I have:

https://store.snapon.com/Geared-Head...t-P634899.aspx
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:07 PM
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The video is wrong - needs to be torqued with the wheel off the ground.

The minimum you need is a 42" breaker bar. One fits easily on the floor between the passenger seat and door. Just use the emergency tightening procedure if needed.

I'd also throw in a tire plug kit. Most shops won't have the correct size tires in stock either.
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Perfect, the linked product would be used to re torque the wheels to put them back on to the required 500 nm? Does the CL socket fit directly to this unit or is anything else required.

I have never had, or worked with CL wheels before and this is all new to me, I choose that option because they looked kool as hell, and never realized the difference in the hardware (and effort) required to remove and install them until months after owning the car. I am sorry if any of these questions come off as dumb. I just want to place an order and get everything I need in one shot.

what do you carry to break the CL nut loose?

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Once you use one you will never use a huge leverage bar again. Here's what I have:

https://store.snapon.com/Geared-Head...t-P634899.aspx
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Old 08-25-2017, 12:23 PM
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I have watched several YouTube videos and I see a lot of comments on people doing something wrong, from pushing down on the torque wrench to tighten as apposed to pulling up. I would think the pulling up would be more accurate as it removes the suspension travel? Probably also better for the car.

Other than digging out the manual, is there an instruction list of the proper Porsche procedure on removing and installing the CL wheels linked on this site or elsewhere ?

I have a decent tire plug kit in the car, I figured that and the onboard compressor can get me by in situations where a nail or small hole sidelined you until I can get the tire replaced.



Originally Posted by Dr.Bill View Post
The video is wrong - needs to be torqued with the wheel off the ground.

The minimum you need is a 42" breaker bar. One fits easily on the floor between the passenger seat and door. Just use the emergency tightening procedure if needed.

I'd also throw in a tire plug kit. Most shops won't have the correct size tires in stock either.
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He used an Armstrong Torque multiplier, look at post #12

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...-2010-gt3.html
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Originally Posted by JSF721 View Post
I have watched several YouTube videos and I see a lot of comments on people doing something wrong, from pushing down on the torque wrench to tighten as apposed to pulling up. I would think the pulling up would be more accurate as it removes the suspension travel? Probably also better for the car.
If the wheel is off the ground me thinks pushing down will avoid the suspension loading issue.
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Thanks, great find

lots of good info


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He used an Armstrong Torque multiplier, look at post #12

https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...-2010-gt3.html
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While I agree with you, I would like to see the Porsche approved step list and I'd follow it. At least until I understood it. Sometime what I think makes sense, is just incorrect.

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If the wheel is off the ground me thinks pushing down will avoid the suspension loading issue.
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:47 PM
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See my tool
https://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-...ment-tool.html
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PM me for all the details.
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There are a couple sticky threads in the 997 GT3 forum on dealing with the centerlock hubs. Including the best way - a 5-lug conversion!!
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Originally Posted by thekid96 View Post
If the wheel is off the ground me thinks pushing down will avoid the suspension loading issue.
when the wheel is off the ground pushing down is pushing the suspension in its unnatural way. The suspension is made to travel up towards the body not down and away.
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Originally Posted by JSF721 View Post
Perfect, the linked product would be used to re torque the wheels to put them back on to the required 500 nm? Does the CL socket fit directly to this unit or is anything else required.

I have never had, or worked with CL wheels before and this is all new to me, I choose that option because they looked kool as hell, and never realized the difference in the hardware (and effort) required to remove and install them until months after owning the car. I am sorry if any of these questions come off as dumb. I just want to place an order and get everything I need in one shot.

what do you carry to break the CL nut loose?
you can use the torque multiplier with a breaker bar to break loose the nut.
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I have removed and installed CL wheels many, many, many and many times track days with slicks.
If the question is "what should I bring to help the shop" I would just throw in a 1/2 to 3/4 socket adapter and this:

https://www.toolsource.com/split-bea...6.html?tsqtid=
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Old 08-25-2017, 08:47 PM
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since we have so many experts here, I have a question as well.

Now that I am taking my RS to the track more frequently, how are you guys checking to ensure the wheels are tightened appropriately? Obviously with the lugs its easy, but these CLs are a pain. What is recommended? Hate to lose a wheel if it can be avoided. Thanks in advance, as the DEs pile up!
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