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400hp944 05-16-2014 01:25 PM

Borla Exhaust Question
 
For those of you with the Borla cat-back systems, which part number did you purchase, #12653 or #12654? The only difference I see is the size of the tip. One is 3.5" and the other 4". I want to be sure of the fitment and don't want to cut anything.

HoBoJoe 05-16-2014 07:23 PM

What year is your car? I ran into issues with the proper part numbers for my 2009 S. Also, manual or Tip/PDK?

400hp944 05-16-2014 07:51 PM

2008. From what the Borla site says, the #12653 has 4" "race" tips and the #12654 has 3.5". Pretty sure it's the exact same system just larger tips.

HoBoJoe 05-16-2014 08:07 PM

I think the 987.1 had the same exhaust for manual and auto cars, the only difference between the 2 systems is the tip size. Go for the 4", it fills the factory gap nicely.

400hp944 05-16-2014 08:10 PM

Also, Most other manufacturers mention that their systems remove the "secondary" cats, but Borla makes no mention about them. I assume they are part of the pipes that connect to the actual cats themselves. I really need to crawl under this thing and check it out. I know every inch of my spec car but not much about the Cayman S. :(

400hp944 05-16-2014 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by HoBoJoe (Post 11373661)
I think the 987.1 had the same exhaust for manual and auto cars, the only difference between the 2 systems is the tip size. Go for the 4", it fills the factory gap nicely.

Thanks!

HoBoJoe 05-16-2014 08:18 PM

The 987.1 (06-08) has a cats in the headers and the muffler section. So yes the borla system removes the secondary cats, but it will not trip a CEL or anything like that.

400hp944 05-16-2014 08:24 PM

Thanks for the info Joe!

Burkey 05-17-2014 11:07 AM

Just put the 4 inch on my car, was not quite bolt on but relatively easy, no issue with any warning lights. Love the sound but there is a definite drone between 2400 and 2900, very loud. Just need to keep it in the upper revs :cheers:

400hp944 05-17-2014 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Burkey (Post 11374652)
Just put the 4 inch on my car, was not quite bolt on but relatively easy, no issue with any warning lights. Love the sound but there is a definite drone between 2400 and 2900, very loud. Just need to keep it in the upper revs :cheers:

Is the drone "drive you out of the car" loud or just a little annoying? Is your car an "S"? 6 Speed? I don't remember what typical freeway cruising speed is, but does the drone fall into that rpm?

HoBoJoe 05-17-2014 02:24 PM

The drone on mine isn't bad in my opinion, doesn't rattle your head or anything. I can still hold a conversation at all RPMs with the exhaust, which couldn't be said for my 964 with a muffler and cat bypass. Also, the drone on mine has gotten lest noticeable after driving the car around for 1k miles or so but is still there.

I like my cars loud and the Borla is almost loud enough for my taste, but probably more than loud enough for my neighbors liking.

Burkey 05-18-2014 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by 400hp944 (Post 11374899)
Is the drone "drive you out of the car" loud or just a little annoying? Is your car an "S"? 6 Speed? I don't remember what typical freeway cruising speed is, but does the drone fall into that rpm?

I have a S 6 speed, the drone is not present on the highway, it is over the 2900, the drone is louder then I would like but the sound other then that is so good I would highly recommend. Car sounds awesome on the track :cheers:


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