Will Caymans be classic some day?
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Will Caymans be classic some day?
This friday My potential new Cayman is getting a PPI in the Porsche official dealer2007 Cayman S with 60k Miles and seems to be perfect
I am hoping to keep it a long time till it becames a classic, or so I hope
What do You think...Will they be classics?
Henry
I am hoping to keep it a long time till it becames a classic, or so I hope
What do You think...Will they be classics?
Henry
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Eventually, everything becomes a classic. You may not be around to see it happen, though!
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By this definition they already are...
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NO the 987 platform will NOT become a classic in your lifetime. Maybe hundred years from now, perhaps.
By classic I don't mean "classic" as stated by your car insurance's classic car status -where any vehicle older than a stated period is 'classic', nor do I mean 'classic' as a figure of speech.
By classic I mean having a similar status to what 911 aircooled cars have, they may not be collectible in their own right unless they are an aircooled 911 Carrera RS, GT2, or a 911R for example, but they are classics.
If a particular 987 Cayman were to become a classic in any way, it would need to be:
-need to be a limited production run version of some kind (Cayman R/ Boxster Spyder/ RS60 Spyder/ Designo Edition/ Black Edition) at the very least.
-need to be a special production number as per production line: (e.g. car no. 0001 or 1940 cars made).
-need to have rare options (e.g. leather covered coloured AC sills/slats, leather deviated-stitching steering column, swede leather pillars, full natural-leather interior, special leather interior colour combos; terracotta / 2-tone, PCCB, 14-way powered comfort seats/ sport seats / carbonfibre bucket seats).
-very very low mileage (below 5000kms on the odometer) and you would basically have to never drive it to maintain below 5000kms on the odo.
-other factors; all original paint, no. matching car, full service history and traceability to Porsche dealer networks.
-or, driven/owned/raced by a famous/historic person.
By classic I don't mean "classic" as stated by your car insurance's classic car status -where any vehicle older than a stated period is 'classic', nor do I mean 'classic' as a figure of speech.
By classic I mean having a similar status to what 911 aircooled cars have, they may not be collectible in their own right unless they are an aircooled 911 Carrera RS, GT2, or a 911R for example, but they are classics.
If a particular 987 Cayman were to become a classic in any way, it would need to be:
-need to be a limited production run version of some kind (Cayman R/ Boxster Spyder/ RS60 Spyder/ Designo Edition/ Black Edition) at the very least.
-need to be a special production number as per production line: (e.g. car no. 0001 or 1940 cars made).
-need to have rare options (e.g. leather covered coloured AC sills/slats, leather deviated-stitching steering column, swede leather pillars, full natural-leather interior, special leather interior colour combos; terracotta / 2-tone, PCCB, 14-way powered comfort seats/ sport seats / carbonfibre bucket seats).
-very very low mileage (below 5000kms on the odometer) and you would basically have to never drive it to maintain below 5000kms on the odo.
-other factors; all original paint, no. matching car, full service history and traceability to Porsche dealer networks.
-or, driven/owned/raced by a famous/historic person.
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define "classic" vs "collectible"
yes it will become a classic. my 87 Porsche 924 is a classic. collectible? nope
yes it will become a classic. my 87 Porsche 924 is a classic. collectible? nope
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A more interesting category might be "desirable"..
In that case - Cayman desirability:
In that case - Cayman desirability:
- Mostest - anything with "GT" or "Spyder" as part of the model nomenclature.
- High - 987.2, low production, reliable, great steering resulting in great handling
- Mid - 981, reliable, great handling (less great steering)
- Low - 987.1, not as reliable, great handling/steering
- The rest (718) - too new to calculate. The new 6-cylinder cars are probably quite desirable.
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Your 2007 Cayman S 987.1 with 60k miles will certainly NOT appreciate to any significant degree. No Bueno. Nada. That said it is an awesome and desirable car in it's own right.
Long Answer: The only way a 987 cayman will appreciate is if it is:
-a limited production run version of some kind (Cayman R/ Designo Edition/ Black Edition) at the very least.
-a special production number as per production line: (e.g. car no. 0001 or 1940 cars made).
-factory build rare options (e.g. leather covered coloured AC sills/slats, leather deviated-stitching steering column, swede leather pillars, full natural-leather interior, special leather interior colour combos; terracotta / 2-tone, PCCB, 14-way powered comfort seats/ sport seats / carbonfibre bucket seats).
-very very low mileage (below 5000kms on the odometer) and you would basically have to never drive it to maintain below 5000kms on the odo.
-all original paint, no. matching car, full service history and traceability to Porsche dealer networks.
-driven/owned/raced/modified vehicle by a famous/historic person/tuner: e.g. RWB, or Chris Harris's personal 987.1 Cayman
Yours has none of these appreciation factors
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A more interesting category might be "desirable"..
In that case - Cayman desirability:
In that case - Cayman desirability:
- Mostest - anything with "GT" or "Spyder" as part of the model nomenclature.
- High - 987.2, low production, reliable, great steering resulting in great handling
- Mid - 981, reliable, great handling (less great steering)
- Low - 987.1, not as reliable, great handling/steering
- The rest (718) - too new to calculate. The new 6-cylinder cars are probably quite desirable.
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I think right now they are riding the 997 wave to an extent. The 997 market, particularly the 997.2 has gotten hot recently. I think the secret is getting out on the 987 and 987.2 as well judging by BaT auction results. Its the last gen before cars got a little bigger and a little cushier. I think they've reached the bottom of their depreciation curve. Its not ever going to be like special/limited 911s, of course. Pristine examples will command the most money as with anything but its never going to be some sale price record setting car.
But take a look at the 914, transaxle cars, or even the 996 and 912. All cars people thought were never going to be worth squat. The thing with these cars is that there were a lot of them, and they weren't considered the cream of the crop so eventually they got very cheap and people abused them or didn't take great care of them. A nice example is now pretty rare and isn't exactly dirt cheap anymore, with some rising in price. A 914 or 944 is absolutely a classic if you ask me. I don't see why the 987 wouldn't follow the same trend.
But take a look at the 914, transaxle cars, or even the 996 and 912. All cars people thought were never going to be worth squat. The thing with these cars is that there were a lot of them, and they weren't considered the cream of the crop so eventually they got very cheap and people abused them or didn't take great care of them. A nice example is now pretty rare and isn't exactly dirt cheap anymore, with some rising in price. A 914 or 944 is absolutely a classic if you ask me. I don't see why the 987 wouldn't follow the same trend.
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question is will we be able to purchase gas at reasonable prices in 20 years? England is planning to stop selling gasoline in 2030.
If gas is unavailable and expensive will anyone want these ICE cars as artwork?
BTW just enjoy your car.
If gas is unavailable and expensive will anyone want these ICE cars as artwork?
BTW just enjoy your car.
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Yeah thats another interesting question to ponder. I saw that Jaguar announced the other day that they will be full electric by 2025 I think it was. It made me wonder if the widespread adoption of EVs will cause ICE enthusiast car values to go up, or to plummet. I have a suspicion that really expensive cars for really wealthy people will go up, but it won't make practical or financial sense for the average joe to own one and the "normal" cars like a Cayman will be worthless. I hope I'm wrong.