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03-03-2013, 10:09 PM
#16
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I'm just telling you what I have experienced. Nothing more, nothing less. Had over 14k miles with the GT3 and only 500 with the 981. I'm sure there are smarter people than me out there with a better understanding of the differences.
03-03-2013, 10:12 PM
#17
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I've read this observation in many magazine reviews and on various forums, but I have to admit that I find it puzzling especially when a term like "electric steering" is used. That term would clearly indicate that you believe the 981 has a steering by wire setup.
The steering system in the 981 and 987 are identical with the exception of how power steering is supplied. In the 981 the hydraulic pump is replaced by an electric motor. So there is no longer a power steering pump connected to the crankshaft in a 981. Other than that the steering shaft is connected into a steering rack that goes out to ball joints and knuckles in both the 987 and 981.
The steering system in the 981 and 987 are identical with the exception of how power steering is supplied. In the 981 the hydraulic pump is replaced by an electric motor. So there is no longer a power steering pump connected to the crankshaft in a 981. Other than that the steering shaft is connected into a steering rack that goes out to ball joints and knuckles in both the 987 and 981.
03-03-2013, 10:39 PM
#18
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Having said that, the 981 is a fantastic car with incredible handling, plenty of power and a musical exhaust. It would definitely be at the top of my list if the Spyder didn't exist.
03-03-2013, 10:48 PM
#19
No offense to the OP in this thread since his observations are shared by so many others, but I have to wonder how many could discern a differance if the electric system were retrofitted on some 987s. The experiment would be to have six 987s: 3 retrofitted with the electric motor and 3 unchanged. Of course the drivers would not be told which were modified with the electric motor. I would love to test some of the journalists who have been the most outspoken on this issue.
03-03-2013, 11:12 PM
#20
Your 'Platinum' option only costs $845 and represents a unique color just for the wheels! It is also a 'value' (as far as Porsche prices go), hides brake dust a tad better and is a solid color (without the silver lip that some dislike)! It has only been offered on the 981 and 991, so it sets it apart!
Congratulations on your 981. I am partial to 'red' interiors (as some of you may know).
Saludos,
Eduardo
03-03-2013, 11:20 PM
#21
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Good point and thanks, Eduardo. Don't know if anyone noticed, but, platinum silver is no longer offered on the Porsche configurator. The new color is Rhodium Silver Metallic. Has anyone seen the it?
03-03-2013, 11:37 PM
#22
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My 2 cents on the whole electric steering thing:
Yes, at slow speeds it does feel more numb. You can't feel every rock/pebble you run over. The steering wheel is easier to turn when you are at a standstill too.
However, once the car is up to speed I can't tell the difference. I certainly didn't notice it at the track with my BRZ, and when I drove my friend's 981 through a mountain run.
If steering feel is important at standstill and slow speeds, then it might bother you. Although, I can't see why that would....?
Yes, at slow speeds it does feel more numb. You can't feel every rock/pebble you run over. The steering wheel is easier to turn when you are at a standstill too.
However, once the car is up to speed I can't tell the difference. I certainly didn't notice it at the track with my BRZ, and when I drove my friend's 981 through a mountain run.
If steering feel is important at standstill and slow speeds, then it might bother you. Although, I can't see why that would....?
03-04-2013, 06:58 AM
#24
It has been reported with some frequency that the electric system does not have the same tactile feedback, I'm confident the writers were saying the same thing when manual racks were changed to power steering. Still, given that this and the start stop technology are in actuality attempts to placate cafe mileage standards, I'm not enthusiastic about the technology as a steering advance.
03-04-2013, 07:21 AM
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03-04-2013, 07:30 AM
#26
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03-04-2013, 09:21 AM
#27
My 2 cents on the whole electric steering thing:
Yes, at slow speeds it does feel more numb. You can't feel every rock/pebble you run over. The steering wheel is easier to turn when you are at a standstill too.
However, once the car is up to speed I can't tell the difference. I certainly didn't notice it at the track with my BRZ, and when I drove my friend's 981 through a mountain run.
If steering feel is important at standstill and slow speeds, then it might bother you. Although, I can't see why that would....?
Yes, at slow speeds it does feel more numb. You can't feel every rock/pebble you run over. The steering wheel is easier to turn when you are at a standstill too.
However, once the car is up to speed I can't tell the difference. I certainly didn't notice it at the track with my BRZ, and when I drove my friend's 981 through a mountain run.
If steering feel is important at standstill and slow speeds, then it might bother you. Although, I can't see why that would....?
03-04-2013, 09:43 AM
#28
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+1. Imagine my delight, I figure that the demise of plat silver metallic in combination with the black painted wheels, probably makes my car more valuable today than when I took delivery!
I wonder why the plat silver has been dc'd
I wonder why the plat silver has been dc'd
