Anyone swap out OEM short shift kit on Boxster Spyder?
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Anyone swap out OEM short shift kit on Boxster Spyder?
Has anyone swapped out the OEM short shift kit on a Boxster Spyder if you did what did you put in?
I am asking this based on another thread for 997s where there is an indication that the 997GT3 shifter has more solid guts than the traditional 997 short shift kit.
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I am asking this based on another thread for 997s where there is an indication that the 997GT3 shifter has more solid guts than the traditional 997 short shift kit.
Thank you in advance
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I have not (sorry). Instead, I went from regular shifter to OEM SSK. Feels great. I believe Numeric Racing shifter is better - but ~twice the cost.
GT3 shifter has metal internals/linkages compared to plastic material in the 997 part (OEM SSK) from what I'm told, and has a better feel. Some people go with Cup car cables, etc., for even better feel.
GT3 shifter has metal internals/linkages compared to plastic material in the 997 part (OEM SSK) from what I'm told, and has a better feel. Some people go with Cup car cables, etc., for even better feel.
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Just my opinion but unless you are like me and going to keep your Spyder as long as you can for yourself, my advise would be not to modify it from stock. If you're the kind of guy who is going to want something else in 36 months your used Spyder will be worth more unmolested.
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Steve I would also be interested in knowing if the GT3 shifter varies internally.
As we have all seen, the B&M SSK does have aluminum in it which replaces the stock plastic. B&M makes the shifter for Porsche and everyone says it's an improvement. Maybe the B&M SSK with Aluminum guts and GT3 Shifter are similar?
As we have all seen, the B&M SSK does have aluminum in it which replaces the stock plastic. B&M makes the shifter for Porsche and everyone says it's an improvement. Maybe the B&M SSK with Aluminum guts and GT3 Shifter are similar?
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As I understand it the GT3 has the aluminum guts...that is the piece I find intriguing as I would expect that to be overall more durable than the plastic the OEM 997 SSK and Boxster Spyder kits have.
B&M sells an SSK and it fits the following:
Application
'97-'04 Boxster (986 all models)
'05-'11 911 (997 all models)
'98-'05 911 (996 all models)
'05-'11 Boxster, Cayman (987 all models)
B&M sells an SSK and it fits the following:
Application
'97-'04 Boxster (986 all models)
'05-'11 911 (997 all models)
'98-'05 911 (996 all models)
'05-'11 Boxster, Cayman (987 all models)
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One word of caution: be careful of some aftermarket SSKs.
People on other sites have complained that, unlike OEM SSK where you change out the whole kit, AM ones including B&M just change out some of the internals and it's tough to get it back to stock or change to another type if you don't like that particular SSK. After reading multiple people post that OEM kit is best (including some who tried B&M, but this was before Numeric Racing's SSK came out), I went OEM route. Of course, using an OEM GT3 shifter would obviate that problem.
BTW... Afshin, did you move to KC?? I missed the whole move! Knew you were moving but didn't know when! Hope things are well!
People on other sites have complained that, unlike OEM SSK where you change out the whole kit, AM ones including B&M just change out some of the internals and it's tough to get it back to stock or change to another type if you don't like that particular SSK. After reading multiple people post that OEM kit is best (including some who tried B&M, but this was before Numeric Racing's SSK came out), I went OEM route. Of course, using an OEM GT3 shifter would obviate that problem.
BTW... Afshin, did you move to KC?? I missed the whole move! Knew you were moving but didn't know when! Hope things are well!
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One word of caution: be careful of some aftermarket SSKs.
People on other sites have complained that, unlike OEM SSK where you change out the whole kit, AM ones including B&M just change out some of the internals and it's tough to get it back to stock or change to another type if you don't like that particular SSK. After reading multiple people post that OEM kit is best (including some who tried B&M, but this was before Numeric Racing's SSK came out), I went OEM route. Of course, using an OEM GT3 shifter would obviate that problem.
BTW... Afshin, did you move to KC?? I missed the whole move! Knew you were moving but didn't know when! Hope things are well!
People on other sites have complained that, unlike OEM SSK where you change out the whole kit, AM ones including B&M just change out some of the internals and it's tough to get it back to stock or change to another type if you don't like that particular SSK. After reading multiple people post that OEM kit is best (including some who tried B&M, but this was before Numeric Racing's SSK came out), I went OEM route. Of course, using an OEM GT3 shifter would obviate that problem.
BTW... Afshin, did you move to KC?? I missed the whole move! Knew you were moving but didn't know when! Hope things are well!
In either case, you have a problem trying to switch it back: Porsche does not sell the bushings separate from the shifter. Hence, once you cur out the originals to swap shifters it is pretty much a permanent change. With the OEM SSK to remove it, you would have to cut out the bushings again. Then you would have to buy another shifter kit to reinstall the old one to get a set of bushings. With the B&M, since the bushings are not hard mounted like the OEM bushings you could reinstall the OEM stock shifter with the B&M bushings; but again you can't buy replacement bushings to make the kit hole again. So bottom line, if you are going to plan to swap to a SSK then just toss the old parts (no one ever wants them) and make the SSK a permanent change.
With all that, I had the B&M in my 996.2 Carrera and loved it. I never had an issue with it the 5 years I owned the car and the current owner loves it just as much. I just followed the B&M instructions when I installed it and never used the OEM install tool. I actually bought the shifter before I even picked the car up. The 996/986 shifter is simply far too rubbery and vague. I found the OEM/B&M SSK to be perfect for these cars and highly recommend it.
GT3 is a different animal that has a completely different transaxle. The linkage in the transaxle is a lot shorter, hence why it does not need a shorter shifter. With the short throws and high weight of the OEM GT3 shifter, I have never found a reason to change. The 997 GT3 shifter is actually the same as the OEM 997/987 shifter just with metal bushings and a solid shift link (no spring damper). Throw length is similar to the SSK in the regular models with more weighting/effort.
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I have not (sorry). Instead, I went from regular shifter to OEM SSK. Feels great. I believe Numeric Racing shifter is better - but ~twice the cost.
GT3 shifter has metal internals/linkages compared to plastic material in the 997 part (OEM SSK) from what I'm told, and has a better feel. Some people go with Cup car cables, etc., for even better feel.
GT3 shifter has metal internals/linkages compared to plastic material in the 997 part (OEM SSK) from what I'm told, and has a better feel. Some people go with Cup car cables, etc., for even better feel.
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Hmm, interesting. Perhaps I was previously told wrong info.
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If you want something where the cage is made out of aluminum, but is still reasonably affordable, you might want to look at the Numeric Racing SSK. I'm about to install one in my car, and I've got the OEM SSK in there now. I'm also contemplating the Cup car cables as mentioned previously because the linkage ends are metal instead of plastic and less prone to breaking.
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http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/a...fter-sale.html
It appears that GT3 shifter has aluminum bushings. Great price!
It appears that GT3 shifter has aluminum bushings. Great price!
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So what would you guys recommend for someone who wants
- A more direct feel
- less slop
- minimal notchiness
- nice mechanical feel
I'm not too worried about the distance of the throws and the B&M seemed a bit notchy to me.
- A more direct feel
- less slop
- minimal notchiness
- nice mechanical feel
I'm not too worried about the distance of the throws and the B&M seemed a bit notchy to me.
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Drive a car with the B&M and the OEM stock shift link after it gets warmed up and you won't notice any notchiness. The one in my 996 was perfect. The biggest mistake I ever make was putting one of the POS EVOMS shift links in the car. It made the shifter notchy all the time. The problem is the ball cup fits way too tight. Putting the stock shift link back in an inserting the EVOMS link in the trash fixed it. I have noticed the factory SSK with the plastic bushings is a little less notchy when cold than the B&M is with the reinforced bushings. Whichever way you go, factory SSK or B&M, will eliminate the sloppiness.