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Eduardo, I was told that Porsche GB made a deal with the factory to forego PTS on the
991.2 GT3 in return for securing a larger production allocation. PTS is also not available
for PTS here due to the limited production window for that model. Apparently the factory
is ceasing production for several months and the reason I was given was that the entire
petrol engine range is going through an emissions re-certification process. Just to add
further mystery I was advised that PTS may be withdrawn as an option as it is causing
too many production delay issues. This seems strange after your informative posts above
showing how relatively easy it is for the new paint shop to accommodate PTS.
Thank you ISUK. Very interesting information you are providing us from the UK.
In case folks don't know/remember ISUK in this forum, this gentleman is a known
collector in Britain of German & Italian sport cars with a particular taste for PTS!
In addition, he figured out how the Targa top on the 991 was going to mechanically
work before PAG announced its particulars!
More personnel changes at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta
More unsettling news about PCNA & 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in the US.
I have been informed that Jon Brunot, who recently was named as the
replacement for Melissa Witek at 'Exclusive Manufaktur' at PCNA-Atlanta
is no longer with Porsche. I was also told late last summer that the manager
in charge of 'Exclusive Manufaktur' in Atlanta, Barbara Boeckenhoff, was
going to be replaced as part of normal rotation of jobs at Porsche. If anyone
knows if that has already taken place, please let us know...or pm/email me
if you have information on the personnel matter at 'Exclusive Manufaktur'
for the US.
Besides the two reps in the Los Angeles area, Philip Mauney & Florian Truffner,
'Exclusive Manufaktur' is still represented by Yana Nikolayeva & Michael Tam
(if he is still there?) in Atlanta! That is to my knowledge.
Went to Gooding this morning for special breakfast with David Gooding sponsored by Chubb.
Later attended the Keith Martin (Sportcar Market Letter) panel discussion on the state of the
collector market:
Our own C.J. 'Ichiban' was seating in just in front of me...so our forum was
well represented there!
***
Interestingly one of the cars there at Gooding for auction tomorrow is a
1985/1986 Porsche 944 Turbo Cup Car that I crewed for (mostly fueling)
in the SCCA Showroon Stock series - 1986 Escort Endurance Championship!
I knew well Jerry Nelson, one of the drivers & dealer principal at Schneider & Nelson
Porsche in NJ. We took this car everywhere - Sears Point, Mid-Ohio, Mosport, Nelson
Ledges, etc. You know you are getting old when they are auctioning off a car you (in
your mid-thirties then) actively participated in its racing history when it was brand new!
The seller's staff at the event gave me wrong auction time info on the lot. Really dissappointed!
Sold for $23.5K plus commission. Not a bad price for the condition. I would have bought it had
I been there.
***
Back to Gooding tomorrow. Tom Scott's Pre-A 356 Cabriolet for sale there. Too expensive for
me...but just beautiful!
But notice its color...'Fashion Grey', an original Pre-A color you can still order PTS today!
Some of you might have noticed a new 'Special Color' introduced
on the newly announced .2 991 gt3 RS. It's only an additional
$4,220. And you don't have to deal with the 'drama' & 'suspense'
surrounding PTS, when/if they offer that. It looks to me to be a
solid/uni color but we will need to confirm that.
If history is a guide, 'Lizard Green' will be included as an approved PTS color in
a few years at PAG. But for the present, it's an 'exclusive' to the .2 991 gt3 RS!
Undoubtedly PAG has seen the increased interest in the PTS 'greens' that are
being ordered in record numbers for the .2 991 gt3. These not only include 'Signal
Green' & 'Viper', perennial favorites, but also the more 'yellow-green' vintage/historic
hues which include 'Gelbgrün/Lime Green'. 'Chartreuse/Lindgrün', 'Birch/Lichtgrün',
'Willow' & 'Olive'. 'Lava Orange' & 'Miami Blue' are now in the general Porsche
models color offerings. Clearly PAG is trying to give us their customers some bright
colors that normally would only be available to us via PTS. Yet, as 'special' colors
available on demand, they don't carry the cost & drama now associated with PTS.
'Lizard Green' is a welcome addition to Porsche's color palette. I predict will prove
to be a memorable & highly popular color. And it will take it's place of honor in the
pantheon of historic colors that will be talked about in future years. So just as the
RS model recently gave us the beautiful 'RS Orange' (.1 997) & 'Ultraviolet' (.1 991),
this new 'Lizard Green' will be one for the ages!
Wish they'd do so for Boxster and Cayman. Seems like the color choices have been reduced.
Mamba Green is now offered on the Panamera models
Truth.
I've been trying to order a 718 GTS in Irish green for almost 6 months now. After having the color quickly accepted, any indication of build keeps getting pushed out. Was first June, then July, then September. And now PTS is simply missing for the 718s in the configurator. Can anyone shed some light on this? I'm kinda depressed about this one...
Carmel Area Restaurants Recommended for Rennsport VI
Fellow Rennlisters:
As many of you know, I lived in Carmel from 2000 to 2016. Here is a list of my favorite restaurants &
wine tasting rooms in the area in case it might be useful to some of you visiting during Rennsport VI.
****
My favorite French restaurants in Carmel:
***
Other restaurants in Carmel Valley & Carmel Valley Village that I recommend:
Baja Cantina (Mexican) on 7166 Carmel Valley Road (not far from Carmel-by-the-Sea): http://www.carmelcantina.com
The weekly gathering of sport cars & hot rods is on Thursdays!
The Baja Cantina owner, auto collector Pat Phinny, also is the proprietor of 'Turn 12'
restaurant (American) in downtown Monterey - thus named because Laguna Seca
has 11 turns...! http://www.turn12barandgrill.com
*********
Carmel Valley Village (20/30 minute drive from Carmel). Can also be accessed via
Laureles Grade from Route 68 in vicinity of Laguna Seca):
Corkscrew on 55 West Carmel Valley Road / Carmel Valley Village http://www.corkscrewcafe.com
The owners, Walter & Gaston Georis, also are the proprietors of Casanova &
The Biclyclette in Carmel. Gaston drives a Boxster.
Wine Tasting Bernardus Winery Tasting Room on 5 West Carmel Valley Road / Carmel Valley Village http://www.bernardus.com/Our-Story/Our-Story
Bernardus Winery is owned by Ben Pon, an ex-Porsche factory driver,
whose family are Porsche (& VW Group) importers for Holland!
Talbott Vineyards Tasting Room on 5 Pilot Road, Carmel Valley Village http://www.talbottvineyards.com/Visit
Talbott Vineyards was owned by a friend, notable motorcycle collector, Robb Talbott!
You can visit his motorcycle museum nearby! A must if you are into motorbikes!
**********
Carmel Mid-Valley Jeffrey's Grill / 112 Mid Valley Center / Great Breakfast & Brunch spot.
Halfway to Carmel Village. Closer to Quail Lodge & Carmel proper! http://www.jeffreysgrillandcatering.com
*******
By the way, you can drive from Carmel to Greenfield (on 101, south of Salinas)
via Carmel Valley Road using Monterey County G16 Road. Pretty twisty...and a
good Porsche interior road to drive!
*************
Here are some more recommendations in Monterey:
************
Finally, Monterey Bay Aquarium in Cannery Road, Monterey
(if you do one tourist stop, this is the one!).
World class aquarium on Monterey Bay! http://www.montereybayaquarium.org
****
Hope to see some of you at Rennsport this week!
Saludos,
Eduardo
On my way from Scottsdale to Carmel today!
I want to congratulate the new owner of this fine vehicle. He is a fellow Rennlister who first saw the ad here on
our forum. I appreciated the great response to this ad from so many of you. I am glad to see the special specs
of this car were appreciated by so many of you! This '17 .2 991 Carrera S replaced my '15 'Signal Green' .1 991
gt3. The reason was that I didn't love PDK. And this '17 was not only a manual, but it was equipped with the
'Sport Package' which featured 'Rear Axle Steering'. I loved this '17 .2 991S and soon overcame my trepidation
over not being a 'naturally aspirated' engine. This car was/is a torque monster...and handled like a junior gt3!
***
I will repeat here what I recently posted in about my future plans in automotive subjects & Rennlist:
"So I am not abandoning Porsche or automobiles made in 'das vaterland'.
At 68 years of age, and having been a Porsche customer since 1973, I am
still dance to the tune of 'Deutschland über alles'. But I am not particularly
happy with PAG at the moment, given how badly they are handling PTS
and also for allowing dealers to engage in the ADM abuse. I have never
seen a corporation utilize their best & most loyal customers to subsidize
their dealers' profit margins so boldly & so flagrantly! But PCNA & PAG
are OK with it because it allows them to push more Panameras & other
less desirable cars on their US distribution channels. They will soon find
out, when leaner economic times come back, that this was a very short-
sighted policy.
In the meantime, I will explore the possibility of jumping to the dark side
and buying a Ferrari 488 Spider before I buy my next Porsche (the upcoming
Boxster Spyder). Ferrari is not without it's own issues. But at least dealers
have to sell their cars at MSRP to the original customer. And while the models
are 'hot' (meaning first few years after they are released), dealers get them
back from their VIP customers & re-sell them at a profit. But we are now almost
at the end of the 488 model cycle & I have been able to get an allocation for a
488 Spider at MSRP without having to kiss *** or pay a premium. That was not
available to me from 2016 until now. This doesn't happen often at Ferrari...but
when it does, you have to take advantage of it.
Here is what my 488 Spider might look like. Sort of like Ronald McDonald's car
when you think about it! But I am a real sucker for their 'Rosso' interior with
deviated stitching and love the 'Giallo' paint they offer. So much better than
Porsche's current 'Racing Yellow' which has too much 'green' tint. And their
two-tone exterior color with a 'Nero' (black) deviating top is seldom (if ever)
offered by any other car manufacturer. I find that a really a cool & innovative
option!"
*
My next model from Zuffenhausen will be the new Boxster Spyder scheduled to be produced
in the second half of 2019. I have the #2 slot at my dealer in Colorado & hope I'll be able to
spec that in PTS. But we will see. As I just told you, I am quite disappointed with the way
PAG & PCNA is handling PTS. So we will see.
*
I have my 1973 914 2.0 in 'Ravenna Green' for sale at Rennlist too.
***
For the meantime I will keep my original paint, original interior, 57K original miles 'Crystal Blue' 1970 911E Targa:
I am the third owner & this car has a wonderful provenance:
1) Original Window Sticker. 'Crystal Blue' was a special color in MY1970. Porsche informed us via an article in
Christophorus after the end of MY1970 production that only around 15/16 cars of the total 15K built in that model
year were done in this wonderful solid/uni 'blue' color! So it's quite rare...besides being beautiful. And in my car,
it's still the original factory 'Crystal Blue' paint!
2) Subject of an article (& its cover) of Issue #4 at Gmünd Magazine back in 1980 at a time when only rare models
& race cars made the cover of this prestigious publication, the first dedicated only to Porsches.
*
First in Class & First in Division Preservation Class at the 2009 PCA Parade Concours d'Elegance in Keystone Colorado.
***
In 2012 at the Salt Lake City PCA Parade my Targa was selected by a panel of judges that included
Dr. Wolfgang Porsche, Hans Peter Porsche, Oliver Porsche & Detlev von Platen for the prestigious
Honorary 'Judges' Choice' Award, the last trophy presented always as a surprise at Parade's Concours
Banquet on Tuesday night! For my 1979 911E Targa to receive the recognition of the Porsche family in
a field of top competitors in a national concours of at a PCA Parade was the proudest moment in my
history with the brand!
Here is a video taken the morning of the Concours before the competition began:
***
Needless to say, this is a very special automobile. If I were to part with this unique & exceptionally
well-preserved survivor, it would take close to US$300,000 to do the trick! Mechanically, it's also in
top shape. I just spent $30K plus with Patrick Motorsports in Phoenix to built rebuild the motor! So
it drives as good as it looks!
***
Finally, a word about Rennlist & my lack of active participation in the past months. I am not enjoying
the banter at Rennlist at the present time like when I first join back in 2009. And I know for sure that
moderators have failed miserably in keeping this forum safe from senseless strife & active trolls. So
I am taking an extended break. Hopefully the forum will get to place that will be welcoming to me &
many of my old Rennlisters friends that sadly also don't post anymore. Regardless, I wish everyone
that I have met through Rennlist my best & want to tell you it has been a privilege knowing you &
assisting some of you in matters related to PTS & 'Porsche Exclusive'. Bonne Chance!
*** [/Quote]
But I am not particularly
happy with PAG at the moment, given how badly they are handling PTS
and also for allowing dealers to engage in the ADM abuse. I have never
seen a corporation utilize their best & most loyal customers to subsidize
their dealers' profit margins so boldly & so flagrantly! But PCNA & PAG
are OK with it because it allows them to push more Panameras & other
less desirable cars on their US distribution channels. They will soon find
out, when leaner economic times come back, that this was a very short-
sighted policy.
I want to congratulate the new owner of this fine vehicle. He is a fellow Rennlister who first saw the ad here on
our forum. I appreciated the great response to this ad from so many of you. I am glad to see the special specs
of this car were appreciated by so many of you! This '17 .2 991 Carrera S replaced my '15 'Signal Green' .1 991
gt3. The reason was that I didn't love PDK. And this '17 was not only a manual, but it was equipped with the
'Sport Package' which featured 'Rear Axle Steering'. I loved this '17 .2 991S and soon overcame my trepidation
over not being a 'naturally aspirated' engine. This car was/is a torque monster...and handled like a junior gt3!
***
I will repeat here what I recently posted in about my future plans in automotive subjects & Rennlist:
"So I am not abandoning Porsche or automobiles made in 'das vaterland'.
At 68 years of age, and having been a Porsche customer since 1973, I am
still dance to the tune of 'Deutschland über alles'. But I am not particularly
happy with PAG at the moment, given how badly they are handling PTS
and also for allowing dealers to engage in the ADM abuse. I have never
seen a corporation utilize their best & most loyal customers to subsidize
their dealers' profit margins so boldly & so flagrantly! But PCNA & PAG
are OK with it because it allows them to push more Panameras & other
less desirable cars on their US distribution channels. They will soon find
out, when leaner economic times come back, that this was a very short-
sighted policy.
In the meantime, I will explore the possibility of jumping to the dark side
and buying a Ferrari 488 Spider before I buy my next Porsche (the upcoming
Boxster Spyder). Ferrari is not without it's own issues. But at least dealers
have to sell their cars at MSRP to the original customer. And while the models
are 'hot' (meaning first few years after they are released), dealers get them
back from their VIP customers & re-sell them at a profit. But we are now almost
at the end of the 488 model cycle & I have been able to get an allocation for a
488 Spider at MSRP without having to kiss *** or pay a premium. That was not
available to me from 2016 until now. This doesn't happen often at Ferrari...but
when it does, you have to take advantage of it.
Here is what my 488 Spider might look like. Sort of like Ronald McDonald's car
when you think about it! But I am a real sucker for their 'Rosso' interior with
deviated stitching and love the 'Giallo' paint they offer. So much better than
Porsche's current 'Racing Yellow' which has too much 'green' tint. And their
two-tone exterior color with a 'Nero' (black) deviating top is seldom (if ever)
offered by any other car manufacturer. I find that a really a cool & innovative
option!"
*
My next model from Zuffenhausen will be the new Boxster Spyder scheduled to be produced
in the second half of 2019. I have the #2 slot at my dealer in Colorado & hope I'll be able to
spec that in PTS. But we will see. As I just told you, I am quite disappointed with the way
PAG & PCNA is handling PTS. So we will see.
*
I have my 1973 914 2.0 in 'Ravenna Green' for sale at Rennlist too.
***
For the meantime I will keep my original paint, original interior, 57K original miles 'Crystal Blue' 1970 911E Targa:
I am the third owner & this car has a wonderful provenance:
1) Original Window Sticker. 'Crystal Blue' was a special color in MY1970. Porsche informed us via an article in
Christophorus after the end of MY1970 production that only around 15/16 cars of the total 15K built in that model
year were done in this wonderful solid/uni 'blue' color! So it's quite rare...besides being beautiful. And in my car,
it's still the original factory 'Crystal Blue' paint!
2) Subject of an article (& its cover) of Issue #4 at Gmünd Magazine back in 1980 at a time when only rare models
& race cars made the cover of this prestigious publication, the first dedicated only to Porsches.
*
First in Class & First in Division Preservation Class at the 2009 PCA Parade Concours d'Elegance in Keystone Colorado.
***
In 2012 at the Salt Lake City PCA Parade my Targa was selected by a panel of judges that included
Dr. Wolfgang Porsche, Hans Peter Porsche, Oliver Porsche & Detlev von Platen for the prestigious
Honorary 'Judges' Choice' Award, the last trophy presented always as a surprise at Parade's Concours
Banquet on Tuesday night! For my 1979 911E Targa to receive the recognition of the Porsche family in
a field of top competitors in a national concours of at a PCA Parade was the proudest moment in my
history with the brand!
Here is a video taken the morning of the Concours before the competition began:
***
Needless to say, this is a very special automobile. If I were to part with this unique & exceptionally
well-preserved survivor, it would take close to US$300,000 to do the trick! Mechanically, it's also in
top shape. I just spent $30K plus with Patrick Motorsports in Phoenix to built rebuild the motor! So
it drives as good as it looks!
***
Finally, a word about Rennlist & my lack of active participation in the past months. I am not enjoying
the banter at Rennlist at the present time like when I first join back in 2009. And I know for sure that
moderators have failed miserably in keeping this forum safe from senseless strife & active trolls. So
I am taking an extended break. Hopefully the forum will get to place that will be welcoming to me &
many of my old Rennlisters friends that sadly also don't post anymore. Regardless, I wish everyone
that I have met through Rennlist my best & want to tell you it has been a privilege knowing you &
assisting some of you in matters related to PTS & 'Porsche Exclusive'. Bonne Chance!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
What a great story....!! That was my first PCA region, Metro NY
Wising you the best Eduardo
Regards
Ed
I must tell you all that this is, personally, one of the best news I have seen coming from PAG regarding the
color palette of their cars. Porsche is finally giving us a stunning 'solid/uni' bright green color at a relatively
affordable price ($3270) vs the now very expensive PTS option. And without the drama, delays & frustrations
associated with PTS! I trust that 'Lizard Green' will also be a 'Special Color' on the coming 2020 Boxster Spyder
...and that will most likely be the color I will choose on that model on my allocation. And I predict this will be a
much more popular color option for customers than 'Miami Blue' and 'Lava Orange' in the long run. Simply
because, unlike those two other colors that were 'massaged' rather unsuccessfully by the color fashionistas
at PAG, 'Lizard Green' is almost a faithful reproduction of the very popular formulation of the vintage 911 color
'Gelbgrün/Lime Green'!
12-30-2017, 01:25 AM
Report from ISUK in UK...
