ClintonM3

Ok, buying a car shouldn't be this hard. Here's what you do, step by step:

"Hello, I am interested in a Spyder, do you have a modify-able unit for sale?"

"Here is my configuration. I will purchase the car if you can take $XXX off MSRP?" If no, the dealer will tell you their offer. Counter offer if you wish, but don't nickel and dime, you are rich, for crying out loud.

Buy the darn car.

YES, is that simple.

Sales people will always take the path of least resistance. Make it easy for them to sell, and they will make it easy for you to buy. Believe it or not, if you do this, chances of them playing games is nill. And if they are playing games, so are you, re-evaluate your expectations and attitude.

I know car sales. And I know car sales people. Now go do it and enjoy.

Marine Blue

That is exactly what I did to buy my Spyder. I talked to the sales guy on the phone and stated that I wanted an allocation and I also stated what I expected for a discount. There was no other discussions, they accepted my offer and we finalized the deal the next day in person. Yes the dealer did try to convince me to buy other options (clear bra, wheel protection etc) but I simply stated that I only wanted the car.

I did the same thing when I bought my Speed3.

Best approach to car buying is do your homework up front and establish what you're willing to pay. State it up front so the dealer knows if they can meet it or not. Obviously the offer should be reasonable for both parties, after all a dealer is in the business to make money.

jabbey

Before reading this did just that, all via email. I just stated to have my business I need the following: this configuration, 2.5%, the pro forma build sheet, and regular (every 3 weeks or so) progress updates from the internal system. 30 minutes later, I have a build in place. Super jazzed

n4v4nod

I ordered mine at launch assuming I had to pay MSRP due to it being new and limited allocations. When it arrived my dealer (Sunset Imports) automatically gave me 3% off MSRP... I was quite happy

jabbey

Does the Spyder have garage door openers? I've seen pics with curious buttons next to the mirror? I didn't see it on the options list.

orthojoe

Yes, it does. You can program 3 garage doors.

jabbey

Sweet. Thanks. Now I just wait 3 months....

mooty

discount or not, depends on you. it's not that much money. but it seems that your dealer has integrity even reimbursing flight. it's not the money, it's the "game" and "BS" i hate.

mooty

i had two JUMBO nautilus. never wore them. in vacuum bag from factory. sold them eventually. stupid hobby for me.

too late.
in the late 80 early 90's i have amassed some of the most amazing gears you can possibly imagine. let me see.....

goldmund ref turntable
oracle delphi 4 with SME 5 wired with cardas
VPI ref with graham engineering toe arm wired with cardas
well tempered ref

cartridge, i am a warm softie:
koetsu rosewood
kiseki purpleheart
though i did try a benz micro

preamps
threshold fet10
ML6B
ARC sp11, sp14
CJ premier
JRDG coherence III, consonance and consumate
marantz 8 or was it 7? one of them is the tuner. it's been a long time.

amps
threashold SA1, SA2, SA2
ML 2 (4 pairs, dont ask why), ML20.5, 20.6
JRDG model 1 (bridged mono), model 5, model 7
ARC Classic 30, 60
CJ premier
marants 9

speakers
old refurbished quad
martin logan CLS, CLS2
maggies
WATTS
sonus faber electa, electa amator, guarneri (sp)
thiels
klipsch horn (dont ask)

digital
theta DAC
wadia DAC
ML transport
krell transport

and i have enough interconnect and speaker cables from music hose to cardas hexlink .... enough to probably go from SF to the moon and back.....

i have sound treatment in my listening room such that the room looks like the psych ward. it was a tough habit to get out.

oh, i also have gryphon amp/preamp
old naim
old LINN sondeck
AE1

mooty

i spoke to perry today.
he wants to sell me RS. i will buy at MSRP. but that's not what they will do.

however, he said he will work hard for you to get the spyder.
and if you should decide to finance, ask for their buy rate. however, usually BofA is still lower than PFS' buy rate. but you are probably better at counting money than i.

orthojoe

Are you looking to buy a spyder from Stead? I'm looking online and they have 2 spyders in their inventory. I'm livid right now because those are 2 allocations that I could have custom ordered to my spec last November, but they convinced me they were not getting anymore allocations. Being a gullible first time Porsche buyer I believed them and bought what they had on the lot. Stupid me, but when it comes time to get my GT3, I'm going elsewhere.

Dave I

They want over msrp for the RS?

Yes, we talked about numbers and aren't close at this point, so we will see what they come up with tomorrow.

Didn't know B of A had a competitive rate. Hopefully the pfs rate that was available a couple of moths ago is still around. Otherwise, will probably go with Pentagon, although I'd rather lease.

Orthojoe, yes this is one of the two Spyders that show up on the Stead website.

Marine Blue

Penfed rates were lower than anything I saw when I purchased my Spyder although my local credit union matched the rate so I went with them.

Good luck Dave and let us know if you pull the trigger.

orthojoe

Yeah, they sent out an email several weeks ago 'trumpeting' that they have a RS 4.0 allocation, and that they were opening to 'highest bidder'. So slimy...

aussie jimmy

you ARE insane. hahahahaha!
which means I'M sane!
coz us audiophiles are normal after all.
man, you definitely got all the good sicknesses. (watches, cars, audio, architecture, books, cameras, music, women, food....) you into shoes as well?
you got the dm-100 arc welder/patio heater?