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Old 07-05-2019, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by brandobot View Post
Checking out a 2013 S with 34k miles with an 85k msrp.

pse, pasm, sport chrono, premium package, extended leather, ptv, 20” carrera s wheels, bose, navi and much more. Listed for 42.5k.

can anyone chime in what this car is worth? Or better yet, would anyone be able to share what they paid for their car? I’m finding it difficult to find data online to determine a fair market value.

fwiw, after taking in account of the suggestions above, my “nice to have” options are pse, pasm and the sound system. Sport design steering wheel definitely looks cool too.

I’m coming from a Lotus, where there was bare aluminum exposed and no carpeting, so I have a feeling even a base Boxster with no options will be luxurious to me.
Best I can tell, putting those into kbb.com lists trade as $31 to $35k, private party sale at $33-37k.

Options are a personal choice. Some you like, some others have no use for. For sure they don't appreciably change the value of the car as a used purchase, in my experience. You can get a great deal on a loaded used car for nearly the price of a stripper, it seems. Sure they add value but no where near same as when new.

At 35K miles if done by the book you have an upcoming 40K service. Read up on what that entails so you are ready. (the 40K on mine had just been done at the dealer before I purchased it - bill was $1,400.)

What condition are the tires? (My set of Michelin P4S for my '14 981CS from TireRack were $1,400, plus $100 mounting plus $100 alignment).

Plus the battery is now 6 years old and may need replacing. (Mine was around $220, DIY).

You might use these facts to bargain the price, if you make an offer.
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Old 07-05-2019, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvanpelt729 View Post
I would disagree with much of this. Must haves are PSE, PASM or X73, and sport design wheel. Don't need much more than that! Sport Chrono is arguably more important on a PDK car but not a must have for either (unless you really like the clock). The nav is outdated already, I'd skip. Bose isn't great (especially with a top down in a boxster, but you won't care with PSE). Rear wiper isn't a big deal. Backup camera is nice but can live without. For a convertible, seat heaters are important. There are a few seat options, but having the 2 way sport seats in my previous 981 Cayman S, I can say that even those are great. Have 18 ways now and very happy with those as well.
No worries.

My opinion is based on over a year of driving my '14 Cayman S. What I find absolutely necessary others go 'pfft' heh. I used the Rear Wiper literally ALL THE TIME. Plus, I only tagged the rear bumper in one car over 40 years of driving backing up - and it was in this car lol. Hence backup camera.

I'm sure you have reasons for your thoughts. Happy driving.
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich_Jenkins View Post
Best I can tell, putting those into kbb.com lists trade as $31 to $35k, private party sale at $33-37k.

Options are a personal choice. Some you like, some others have no use for. For sure they don't appreciably change the value of the car as a used purchase, in my experience. You can get a great deal on a loaded used car for nearly the price of a stripper, it seems. Sure they add value but no where near same as when new.

At 35K miles if done by the book you have an upcoming 40K service. Read up on what that entails so you are ready. (the 40K on mine had just been done at the dealer before I purchased it - bill was $1,400.)

What condition are the tires? (My set of Michelin P4S for my '14 981CS from TireRack were $1,400, plus $100 mounting plus $100 alignment).

Plus the battery is now 6 years old and may need replacing. (Mine was around $220, DIY).

You might use these facts to bargain the price, if you make an offer.
All great and very valid points as tires and maintenance can raise the price shortly after purchasing the car. I will ask. Thanks!
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Old 07-05-2019, 06:25 PM
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Yeah what Rich_Jenkins said, all really good info. Also on the top, check for scuff marks on the right and left side as well as check the lower right and left corners where the rear widow meets the cloth top. According to a guy that repairs and replaces Porsche soft tops in my area. these are leak points so determine how worn they are. Mine is a 14 and I had it replaced last year. fortunately Porsche paid for it even though it is a wear item. They said the wear was premature so they covered it on my CPO warranty.
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Originally Posted by Boomhauer View Post
I sought and bought a '13 S 6MT with the steering wheel controls, but they're about like hens teeth. Only addition I play with adding is a backup camera. I compensate by backing into parking spots that I see ahead of time, then no worry about pulling out.
Backup camera was an extremely rare option on the 981s for some reason.

Everybody is suggesting PSE as a mainstay for "must have" options, but I'd drop it down to "nice to have". It's arguably one of the easiest features to adjust via the aftermarket. I'm happy with my PSE, but I think I'd be just as fine with one of the many aftermarket options... but the good ones are a couple grand on top of the purchase price so there is that (*cough* Akrapovic).

Also I'll second doing a comprehensive PPI and getting a detailed report on what maintenance/repairs have been done and what's coming up soon. Brakes for these cars can vary wildly, but 50k is a reasonable expectation for (steel) brake life expectancy. If you have it done at a dealer it's going to run you close to $3k. Also IIRC the 50k service is a "big one"; I believe that's when the spark plugs are replaced. It's not cheap, unless you're a DIY guy that loves working on your own car- and then even the parts are still pretty expensive.

Also with the PPI make sure you do your due diligence with a DME (overrev) report. Manual transmissions are subject to missed shifts that could essentially mean the engine is a ticking time bomb. Just another data point for your peace of mind.
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If you have it done at a dealer it's going to run you close to $3k.
Ah - I forgot the 4 wheel brake job I had done at my dealer. $2,400. Including PCA Discount.

It’s fairly easy to check the rotors - feel with your fingers for any lip or dishing in the rotor edge.

Pads are trickier. Brakes on German cars are stupid easy to DIY (circumstances dictated otherwise for me at the time for my Cayman S, or I would have done them.)
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Originally Posted by brandobot View Post
All great and very valid points as tires and maintenance can raise the price shortly after purchasing the car. I will ask. Thanks!
Good luck! I am not a top down guy but I will say a 981 is one of the better bets for reliability - and a hoot to drive.
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My buddy just bought a 14 Cayman S manual with 13k miles and a 80k MSRP. it has PSM, PASM, PSE etc. When I saw the "binoculars" in the ad I pushed him to look into the car. He had it a few days and came by. His words were something like he thought i was nuts with the exhaust, making a big thing out of nothing. But now that he has the car a few days he loves the sound when he is alone. He hasn't had the road to play with the sport button yet. He will when he drives to Vail in a few weeks.

His wife wants to drive it. I told my wife to take our 07 CS when she takes his and swap, then play with the PSE button and report back. That's how I will ease her into suggesting I get an upgrade i dont have the $$ for.

The exhaust is all about the visceral. The other performance options cant be "felt" on a suburban road with other cars and a low speed limit. I had a Billy Boat on my M Roadster and when alone I loved it, but it was annoying when I was with my wife. The binocular button is brilliant and an option I would put on the top of my list.
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Originally Posted by Lvanpelt729 View Post
I would disagree with much of this. Must haves are PSE, PASM or X73, and sport design wheel. Don't need much more than that! Sport Chrono is arguably more important on a PDK car but not a must have for either (unless you really like the clock). The nav is outdated already, I'd skip. Bose isn't great (especially with a top down in a boxster, but you won't care with PSE). Rear wiper isn't a big deal. Backup camera is nice but can live without. For a convertible, seat heaters are important. There are a few seat options, but having the 2 way sport seats in my previous 981 Cayman S, I can say that even those are great. Have 18 ways now and very happy with those as well.
I agree with this. I have X73 and PTV (which I now think is a must)... the only absolute must for me was 6MT.
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