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Old 03-06-2019, 07:33 AM
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Hello - first post. Just registered but have been reading for a couple months now. Currently own a Mk7 GTI but want a more fun and involved daily driver.

I have been looking for a 981 Boxster 6spd for some time and have recently come across this example: https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/inventory/used/Porsche+Boxster+Walnut+Creek+California+2014+Black+11611547

2014 Boxster
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Price: $36,988
Mileage: 28,914
Colors: Black on Black
Options: Pretty light. Main highlights are convenience/Bi-Xenon w PDLS/Infotainment w Bose.

Budget is $40k with expected trade-in so this would fit right in but I would love some advice on the following things:

1) How low can I realistically negotiate since the price seems...optimistic? I ran KBB and Edmunds TMV and the market price is around $32k, but Edmunds TMV with retail says $35-$36k. 6spd Boxsters are also rare in the Bay from what I can see.
2) Should I expect any issues with trading in a VW GTI to a Porsche dealership? Fully paid off, I do 14k miles/yr and no accident history. Also considering Carmax.
3) Anyone in the Bay familiar with this dealer?
4) If I wait a year, budget will go up to $50k-$55k. Is it worth waiting? Extra power of the S isnít a must-have (test-drove a base and loved it) and the other options Iíd like (SportDesign wheel/Sports Exhaust) can be added later.

Iím in LA atm; will go see the car later next week. Would appreciate any advice!


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Old 03-06-2019, 07:47 AM
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Price does seem a little high. Try to get a CPO warranty if that is not already included.
I have a Ď14 base Cayman stripper that I absolutely love. For a modern Porsche it is relatively analog. I added the X73 sport suspension and an aftermarket non-valved exhaust (no buttons!). Good luck!
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Looks like a clean car, but I agree with the other comment that it's a bit overpriced.

For slightly less than what it's offered at, I picked up my 2014 981 S. I purchased it about 11 months ago, but with higher mileage at 41k. Major difference (other than an S version) is that I have the premium package with Adaptive Sport Seats Plus and PDLS lighting system. Those 2 options combined are over $6,000 IIRC.

For the same price I'd recommend looking at some S models, if that's of interest to you. Otherwise, I'd say make an offer at $32k.

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Good luck with the Boxster. I have a GTI also. It’s a great fun car, but I hope you know the resale value sucks. Sell it yourself if you can.
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Thanks all for your comments! Glad to hear about the lower price point. Hopefully the car will still be there when I go see it next Friday haha

I've been looking at BS as well but unfortunately the closest manual S around $40k is in LA

Pep!RRRR, may I ask what exhaust you have?
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Given your budget, no consideration of a new, loaded Golf R over a base 5 year old Boxster? Have you driven the car in question or another base Boxster?
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Originally Posted by hsattley View Post
Hello - first post. Just registered but have been reading for a couple months now. Currently own a Mk7 GTI but want a more fun and involved daily driver.

I have been looking for a 981 Boxster 6spd for some time and have recently come across this example: https://nationalpreownedporsche.com/...Black+11611547

2014 Boxster
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Price: $36,988
Mileage: 28,914
Colors: Black on Black
Options: Pretty light. Main highlights are convenience/Bi-Xenon w PDLS/Infotainment w Bose.

Budget is $40k with expected trade-in so this would fit right in but I would love some advice on the following things:

1) How low can I realistically negotiate since the price seems...optimistic? I ran KBB and Edmunds TMV and the market price is around $32k, but Edmunds TMV with retail says $35-$36k. 6spd Boxsters are also rare in the Bay from what I can see.
2) Should I expect any issues with trading in a VW GTI to a Porsche dealership? Fully paid off, I do 14k miles/yr and no accident history. Also considering Carmax.
3) Anyone in the Bay familiar with this dealer?
4) If I wait a year, budget will go up to $50k-$55k. Is it worth waiting? Extra power of the S isnít a must-have (test-drove a base and loved it) and the other options Iíd like (SportDesign wheel/Sports Exhaust) can be added later.

Iím in LA atm; will go see the car later next week. Would appreciate any advice!

Kbb. Edmunds. NADA. Hmm. When I bought my 981 Spyder with an MSRP of $107K in December of 2017, those resources had the full retail value in the range of high 70's to low 80's. I can still hear the laughter of the sales team as I made an offer in that ballpark.
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Originally Posted by Archimedes View Post
Given your budget, no consideration of a new, loaded Golf R over a base 5 year old Boxster? Have you driven the car in question or another base Boxster?
Hadn't considered that, but my GTI currently has APR Stage 1 low torque, so I'm not really wanting for more power. Fun factor and sound would be more important to me. I test drove a different base 981 Boxster and a Cayman S, both PDK, and absolutely loved them, but also drove a 987.2 Boxster manual and that pretty much settled the manual question for me haha.
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Originally Posted by SpyderSenseOC View Post
Kbb. Edmunds. NADA. Hmm. When I bought my 981 Spyder with an MSRP of $107K in December of 2017, those resources had the full retail value in the range of high 70's to low 80's. I can still hear the laughter of the sales team as I made an offer in that ballpark.
lol could see how that would happen. Hope it'll be a bit different with a non-limited edition Boxster; I'll probably aim for $33,500 (10% off) as my settling price.
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Originally Posted by hsattley View Post
Hadn't considered that, but my GTI currently has APR Stage 1 low torque, so I'm not really wanting for more power. Fun factor and sound would be more important to me. I test drove a different base 981 Boxster and a Cayman S, both PDK, and absolutely loved them, but also drove a 987.2 Boxster manual and that pretty much settled the manual question for me haha.
I'd take a spin in a Golf R before you spend similar money on a base Boxster, particularly if you're talking DD and not weekend canyon carver. Then again, the heart wants what the heart wants and you can't go wrong with a 981.
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Pep!RRRR, may I ask what exhaust you have?
This is the exhaust I have:
https://www.fvd.net/us-en/BES9811500...d-version.html

Sounds good, but Iím a little unhappy with the amount of corrosion in only two years of summer driving.
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I'd take a spin in a Golf R before you spend similar money on a base Boxster, particularly if you're talking DD and not weekend canyon carver. Then again, the heart wants what the heart wants and you can't go wrong with a 981.
I think the R will be too like my GTI, especially since mine is Autobahn with the LSD and makes more power/torque with the ECU flash than a stock R. So for me the only real differences (AWD/styling) arenít worth the money.

Youíre definitely right about my heartstrings tugging here. I know that the Boxster wonít be nearly as good as a GTI for DD but think the trade off is worth it. Iíve heard itís also surprisingly practical.

Plus I wonít be having kids for at least another 5 yrs so will hopefully be able to enjoy the 2 door life with my gf

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Originally Posted by Pep!RRRR View Post


This is the exhaust I have:
https://www.fvd.net/us-en/BES9811500...d-version.html

Sounds good, but Iím a little unhappy with the amount of corrosion in only two years of summer driving.
Looks awesome; any vids to go along with? A bit concerned about the corrosion you mentioned since I live in the Bay
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For $40k I would be looking for a cherry 2008 RS60 Spyder, like in my avatar. They are all GT silver, all have full leather interiors (red or gray), all have either a red or black tops, 5mm spacers, and some have Bose and navigation. All the 6sp manuals have a unique gear shifter and the cover over the instruments was omitted. All have 19" Porsche Design wheels and red brake calipers. Essentially they are Boxster S models with a little more power and a lot of parts bin extras.

Mine had the standard radio and no Bose, but the motor is among the best sounding flat 6s (pre DFI), and these cars aren't going to depreciate much if at all. Limited to 1960 units worldwide. Each car is numbered. Mine was #600.

Also the very first Boxster to have an engine output over 300 hp.

2008 also saw a limited edition orange Boxster base and S, each 1 of 250 world wide.

987s are among the best handling Porsches, and extremely rewarding to drive. If you had a $50~60k budget I'd say find a 2011/12 Boxster Spyder for even more thrills.
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You may be better off purchasing from a non-Porsche dealer. They jack up prices to unrealistic levels; especially without CPO.

The Boxster is a very different animal from the GTI and even the CAYMAN for that matter. With the top down on twisty roads the experience is pure open sports car. Throttle the flat six and your endorphins will start pumping.

Just for reference, I purchased a 2013 Boxster Base off a non-Porsche dealer lot in fantastic shape, but with high miles (60k) for $29k; a bargain price! I purchased a 3rd party warranty.
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