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Old 02-08-2019, 09:17 AM
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This does not warrant replacement of the tub/front structure. It can easily be straightened within factory specs without compromising the integrity of the structure. Breaking and replacing all those factory welds is the more intrusive repair and certainly not cost effective. Get another quality shop to look at it and repair the car with pics showing the repair process and that will help when selling.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:40 AM
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Feld,

Would you mind giving some more detail on your opinion. I am trying to learn everything I can about what can and can't be done regarding repairing these newer aluminum framed cars.
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Old 02-08-2019, 09:52 AM
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Feel free to pm me with your number and we can chat, or email.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:22 AM
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What you could consider is doing a cash settlement with the insurance and then take it someplace to get it fixed and straightened. The damage certainly looks repairable without replacing the frame, maybe it doesnt get you back to new, but certainly, the car would be driable and fine. You could use the extra insurance money to pay back into the loan.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:28 AM
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Twice in the past, I have retained and "rebuilt" cars that were declared totaled by insurance companies. In neither case did the outcome justify the time, effort and expense that I put into having the cars repaired. The process is a royal pain and the likelihood of the car being perfect again is poor. Speaking from experience, if the insurance company will make you whole on the car, take the money and run. In the end it's just a machine and now, it's a flawed one at best. There are other good cars out there to be had with much less hassle.

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Old 02-08-2019, 12:24 PM
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FWIW, the average residual (insurance auction) value on a totaled 981 Boxster S is about 36% - so even if the insurance company let's you buy it back, it's not going to be cheap. Your car should pull well above average too as damage is much more minor than most - so they may factor that in.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:12 PM
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Hey all, thank you again for the responses! Turns out the dealership messed up and the lien holder doesn't even have the title. That will give me time to see if the damage can be repaired.


To confirm, it was a T-bone collision with the other car coming from the right. My car was dragged with the other and that's why the bumper looks all ripped up.


I will see if I can get more pictures of the damage from the shop.

Regarding the headlights, the outer plastic edges were chipped off. They work just fine.
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Old 02-08-2019, 01:39 PM
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Two of my vehicles were damaged and reported to insurance. The first was in my office parking lot. I wasn't even in the car. In fact I parked it at the edge of the lot away from everyone. An oxy addict from a nearby pill farm managed to hit it anyway. The other time I was sitting at a stoplight and a guy on his phone plowed into me. Both times I got screwed when it was time to sell the cars.

My point?

If insurance will make you whole, take the money and run. Having to deal with trading in or selling a car that has been wrecked is a nightmare. Unless you just take it to CarMax, which is what I ended up doing with both of my cars that had been wrecked.

I love my cars, but I'd rather someone total it than deal with another fender bender that marks the car as wrecked.
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Old 02-08-2019, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wboyd View Post
Hey all, thank you again for the responses! Turns out the dealership messed up and the lien holder doesn't even have the title. That will give me time to see if the damage can be repaired.


To confirm, it was a T-bone collision with the other car coming from the right. My car was dragged with the other and that's why the bumper looks all ripped up.


I will see if I can get more pictures of the damage from the shop.

Regarding the headlights, the outer plastic edges were chipped off. They work just fine.
I assume the other driver is at fault. So just have the other driver's insurance company reimburse you for a replacement. This shouldn't be a problem.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:01 AM
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If it is not your fault you are in the driver's seat, no pun intended. I've had a panel of that tub replaced when I impacted on the corner and a radiator mount bent. It's not a problem at all for the Porsche certified shop. They have excellent procedures to follow that makes the structural integrity as good as new. If you get it fixed at all, take lots of photos so you can show a potential future buyer later.
I saw a 911 in the shop I used and had similar damage as yours, although more localized. The driver hit a cat and it went through all the way to the panel that faces the front. It's a standard repair believe it or not.

Can you simply take a position with the other insurance company that you will not take a loss - they can pay you what you paid for the car or your back is going to start hurting. Not really, but the other company knows they have nothing as far as negotiating power goes. They don't want you to know that. If you had one trip to the hospital and/or follow up doctor visits with an MRI etc, they are paying out more than they would pay for your car. They will want you to settle fast, but don't bite. They do not want the liability hanging out there. If you have not been to the doctor, I'd seriously suggest you make an appt and make sure other insurance company knows you are going in for a check-up. Don't tell them anything more than that - let them get nervous.

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Old 02-10-2019, 03:13 PM
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I wasn't implying the damage to that crumple zone would make the car less safe. My buddy is not a car guy and was afraid his baby.....

One month old, your purchase establishes the best basis for the value of the car. They should just pay off what you paid if it isn't your fault.

If you get a shop that will fix it for a reasonable price, I would look into a used headlight. That should save a few hundred. The mirror and headlight on my wife's XC90 with Xenon and blind side were creamed in a minor accident. The headlight was over a grand, and the mirror over 1,200. If it wasn't xenon I could have gotten the whole assembly off Amazon for about $150 with new bulbs, and the mirror of a wreck for a lot less. I haven't checked ebay. You get the idea. Good luck.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:16 PM
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I hit a Badger in my spyder which bent panels 10 and 19 and took out the middle rad and PU. In the end after much discussion and at my request the panels were straightened rather than being replaced, insurance were prepared to do either. Repairer a Porsche specialist was familar with replacing these panels. The total cost was ú11000.

BTW Those panels are not serious damage and mine looked much worse at the front pushed in about 50mm at the front. If the longerons are damaged then a different story.
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:24 PM
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Kinda crazy to think a smaller animal can do that much damage!
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Old 02-10-2019, 05:29 PM
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Yeah. The front lip scooped it up and wedged into the PU mouth. Badger is quite heavy animal and I was doing about 50 mph. Made me realise that these Ali chassis will be difficult in future if damaged rather like Lotus Elise and its easily done. I have gone back to the steel bodied 987 as easier to deal with and weld etc not as stiff though.
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Old 02-13-2019, 12:42 PM
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that first photo reminded me of my 981 driving over a chunk of rubber, which gashed the front undertray (pushing up into the trunk are like that), it then bounced and gashed the next undertray and onto the fuel tank shield.
I replaced all parts over a few repair sessions, so now I have shiny new protective plastic lol
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