how much do ceramic brakes really cost?
#16
Given their value as parts I'm surprised we don't see guys selling off their CCB's before they trade their cars in. Seems like an easy $5K at least to be had after selling the CCB's and installing iron all the way around. Calipers are the same, right, except for the color?
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Just paint your calipers yellow. Done.
#18
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Either way, sounds like a cars and coffee that I'd rather avoid.
Well, I run stock on my '11 Cayman S (PDK) and do a few track days. Former owner did mostly street and on my first "heavy" applications on the track, I could feel the brakes getting "bedded in" and they grab much better now. Plus, the quick downshifting of the PDK helps too. PCCB will throw you through the windshield and most who track don't want them due to $$$$ replacement. For street, they will last forever............ IMHO.
You're just full of helpful advice today.
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#21
I haven't driven a Porsche with ceramic brakes, but I've driven quite a few BMWs... and honestly, the pedal feel and engagement is softer/more forgiving. Instrumented tests to my knowledge don't yield a stopping distance advantage for ceramic vs steel. I've heard the same for Porsche but again, can't personally confirm having not driven one. The primary benefit is longevity for extended track days, but to your point the detraction is cost. The $8k option is painful enough when speccing new (that you typically won't get back in resale); but the replacement as others have stated is outrageous if you ever do go through them.
I'd imagine the lines are probably different too? Not that it matters to me- I agree with whoever stated that a retrofit is a horrible financial decision unless you're just dying to waste money.
I'd imagine the lines are probably different too? Not that it matters to me- I agree with whoever stated that a retrofit is a horrible financial decision unless you're just dying to waste money.
Still, I do agree the price for replacement parts is highway robbery.
#22
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PCCB equipped cars can run iron rotors, but not the standard iron rotors since the CCB rotors are much larger. The PCCB cars usually require much larger, non-OEM, irons.
#23
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GiroDisc is the most popular brand of steel "conversion" rotors that people will put on their PCCB cars. Typically $2,400 for all four corners. OEM steel rotors will not fit PCCB cars.