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Old 10-01-2018, 12:02 AM
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Default 255/35/20 on the front tyres for 981/982?

any precaution if I install there for the front tyres but with 275/35/20 on the rears? Can't find any much info on the web for the 981.

My front 20 inch Carrera sport rims is 8.5x20 ET 57.

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No problem with 255/275 generally, provided the 255 fits up front. That's right on the edge of what'll fit stock, but I can't confirm either way.
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I have tried 255/35-19 on my 14 Cayman, The car has Bilstein Damptronics with coil over modification and the 255 rubbed at extreme steering lock. 20" rims may give you a bit more clearance to the springs, but the only way to know is to try. It will likely require spacers to get things right,

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Originally Posted by Voyager6
I have tried 255/35-19 on my 14 Cayman, The car has Bilstein Damptronics with coil over modification and the 255 rubbed at extreme steering lock. 20" rims may give you a bit more clearance to the springs, but the only way to know is to try. It will likely require spacers to get things right,

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Is it a bad thing if Its rubbing at extreme steering lock? I tried to do extreme steering lock while at park But the steering just automatically release a little bit, Where I Can fit In 5-7mm (using my index finger) between the tyre and suspension.

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Originally Posted by PorscheAddict
No problem with 255/275 generally, provided the 255 fits up front. That's right on the edge of what'll fit stock, but I can't confirm either way.
How does it affect handling wise? Its a DD car, plus we don't have a track from Where I live. So It's very unlikely for me to track other than Occasional fast sweep corners on the highway and back road.
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I run 245/35-20 in front on 8.5x20 ET57 wheel with no issue. The rear is 275/35-20 on 10x20 ET50.
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Originally Posted by storii
I run 245/35-20 in front on 8.5x20 ET57 wheel with no issue. The rear is 275/35-20 on 10x20 ET50.
does increasing the width of the front tyres affect the handling with wider rear tyres ? Some say it could make the car worse due to the +20mm fronts but only +10mm on rears.
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255/275 will have slightly less understeer or more oversteer than 245/275 by virtue of having more front grip. That difference won't be material if you aren't tracking (I hope )
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My 2014 MT CS (bought used with 6800 miles on the clock) came with 20" Sport Technos, 255/35-20's on the front, and 285/35-20's on the rear. (P-zeros all around.) Never noticed any trouble. That was also my first season AXing the car, but I was limited by lack of grip from the tires, so the next season I switched to RE-71Rs in 245 and 285 sizes. (Bridgestone doesn't make that tire in 255/35-20.) I worried about the "unbalanced" setup with the new tires giving me too much understeer, but I've been very successful campaigning the car in PCA AX events (14 or so events per year), so really can't complain.

I'm unable to give a comparison of grip levels for the 255s vs 245s because the car with the original tires had sat out on the dealer's lot all winter before I bought it and no matter what we may say about P-zeros, that made it an unfair comparison. Next spring I'll be on my 3rd set of RE-71Rs in the sizes I stated and while I still wish I had 255s on the front, I'm content for now with the 245s.

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Let us all remember that, for the 981S, the stock tire sizes for 20" rims are F235/35-20 & R265/35-20. The front-to-rear ratio in this size is 0.8868:1. This is what Porsche intended for street use and I tried not to differ too much from this ratio when I upsized my tires because I didn't want to change the handling characteristics too much. I also wanted to limit the increase of the overall diameter to absolute minimum. I wanted to upsize the tires because I changed the wheels from 8x20 ET57/9.5x20 ET45 to 8.5x20 ET57/10x20 ET50. The stock 235/265 looked too skinny on the wider wheels. The following are the front/rear ratio of the sizes discussed in this thread so far:
  • 235/265 (stock) 0.8868:1
  • 245/275 0.8909:1
  • 255/275 0.9273:1
  • 245/285 0.8596:1
  • 255/285 0.8947:1
You can see why I settled with the 245/275 combo. I could have done 255/285, but I thought this combo would increase the overall diameter too much. After the switch, I didn't notice any change in the handling characteristics from stock at all. I think I would have noticed slightly more oversteer if I went with 255/275 and understeer with 245/285. So, for street use, if one wishes to maintain the stock handling characteristics, I recommend one would stay close to the stock front/rear ratio. Obviously, for track and autocross, one can purposefully change the handling characteristics by changing the tire sizes, air pressure, suspension settings, etc., etc.
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Originally Posted by ghartke
My 2014 MT CS (bought used with 6800 miles on the clock) came with 20" Sport Technos, 255/35-20's on the front, and 285/35-20's on the rear. (P-zeros all around.) Never noticed any trouble. That was also my first season AXing the car, but I was limited by lack of grip from the tires, so the next season I switched to RE-71Rs in 245 and 285 sizes. (Bridgestone doesn't make that tire in 255/35-20.) I worried about the "unbalanced" setup with the new tires giving me too much understeer, but I've been very successful campaigning the car in PCA AX events (14 or so events per year), so really can't complain.

I'm unable to give a comparison of grip levels for the 255s vs 245s because the car with the original tires had sat out on the dealer's lot all winter before I bought it and no matter what we may say about P-zeros, that made it an unfair comparison. Next spring I'll be on my 3rd set of RE-71Rs in the sizes I stated and while I still wish I had 255s on the front, I'm content for now with the 245s.

Regards,

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Let us all remember that, for the 981S, the stock tire sizes for 20" rims are F235/35-20 & R265/35-20. The front-to-rear ratio in this size is 0.8868:1. This is what Porsche intended for street use and I tried not to differ too much from this ratio when I upsized my tires because I didn't want to change the handling characteristics too much. I also wanted to limit the increase of the overall diameter to absolute minimum. I wanted to upsize the tires because I changed the wheels from 8x20 ET57/9.5x20 ET45 to 8.5x20 ET57/10x20 ET50. The stock 235/265 looked too skinny on the wider wheels. The following are the front/rear ratio of the sizes discussed in this thread so far:
  • 235/265 (stock) 0.8868:1
  • 245/275 0.8909:1
  • 255/275 0.9273:1
  • 245/285 0.8596:1
  • 255/285 0.8947:1
You can see why I settled with the 245/275 combo. I could have done 255/285, but I thought this combo would increase the overall diameter too much. After the switch, I didn't notice any change in the handling characteristics from stock at all. I think I would have noticed slightly more oversteer if I went with 255/275 and understeer with 245/285. So, for street use, if one wishes to maintain the stock handling characteristics, I recommend one would stay close to the stock front/rear ratio. Obviously, for track and autocross, one can purposefully change the handling characteristics by changing the tire sizes, air pressure, suspension settings, etc., etc.
Thanks for the insight, I was told in a non porsche centric but car forum that it will make the car "dangerous" and ruined the handling. The reason Why I ask about 255 is because I bought that size, not realising that it was 20mm more than the stock 235. I thought the 981/982 was 245 (my car is a stock base 718 with PASM). At least, it doesn't sound like I'll have a drastic change in terms of handling.
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I run 245/295 and still think I need more rear grip, understeer is not a problem.
This is on a Spyder which has a different suspension to other Boxsters, so that might make a difference. I run the GT4 sized tyres, in either RE71 or Cup2.
would love to see if I could fit 305 in the rear!



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