2016 Spyder on BAT
10-02-2018, 04:00 PM
#17
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10-02-2018, 05:03 PM
#19
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76k
Already has one for sale, so bad juju if this one prints too low.
80k incl bat fee. 10k below msrp for 17k mile non-cpo car.
Already has one for sale, so bad juju if this one prints too low.
80k incl bat fee. 10k below msrp for 17k mile non-cpo car.
10-02-2018, 05:06 PM
#21
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It had a DME scan. Zero over revs.
I wouldn't have gone that high even if it was yellow.
I wouldn't have gone that high even if it was yellow.
10-02-2018, 05:16 PM
#22
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Very well sold.
Here's the one I'd be chasing if I were in the market.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-interior.html
Here's the one I'd be chasing if I were in the market.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-interior.html
10-02-2018, 05:18 PM
#23
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Seems the market for these cars is still strong - as you said only $10K off MSRP (if that is what is was originally bought for) after 2 years of being driven heavily + not optimal options and maybe color.
It definitely photographed well! But dealers typically know what they are doing too.
Was the seller on here??
It definitely photographed well! But dealers typically know what they are doing too.
Was the seller on here??
10-02-2018, 05:23 PM
#24
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Very well sold.
Here's the one I'd be chasing if I were in the market.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-interior.html
Here's the one I'd be chasing if I were in the market.
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...-interior.html
10-02-2018, 05:26 PM
#25
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Missing the LWB’s but otherwise a really nice spec. I would say this was well bought/sold and fair price considering mileage. It will be interesting to see if certain options command higher prices like we initially saw on the 987.
Hopefully someone here on Rennlist snagged this!
Hopefully someone here on Rennlist snagged this!
10-02-2018, 05:36 PM
#26
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Hopefully someone here on Rennlist snagged this!
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...er-spyder.html
Now he'll have two.
10-02-2018, 06:29 PM
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I guess it's how you define "well sold." Recall this seller paid $103, it sold for $76, so he got back $27 less than what he paid. He thus took a 26% hit according to my trusty TI slide rule calculator on a car which, other than lacking LWBs, is not a horrible build and has been holding its value better than most. Not sure I would be feeling too cheery if I was the seller.
And then look at it this way: We've seen 987 Spyders sell in the high 60's right? This car brought less than $6-7K over a nicely equipped 987 Spyder. Again, if I'm the seller, this wouldn't leave me jumping for joy. With all due respect to our 987 Spyder friends, I think most would agree that there is -- or should be -- more than a $7K price spread between a 3-year old 981 Spyder and a 6-7 year old 987, and yet that wasn't the case here.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little battered and bruised if I'm the seller. He definitely paid the price (literally) for agreeing to be charged over sticker and having the audacity to drive the car on average 5,666 miles/year -- for shame!! -- so you can always say he brought it on himself I suppose.
It's crazy that averaging 5,666 miles/year is considered excessive, but that's the real world in which we live when it comes to Porsches specifically and collector cars in general. Just so many garage queens that never see the light of day. No way for even a sparingly used car to compete mileage-wise when obsessively non-driven examples are in abundance, if not the norm.
And then look at it this way: We've seen 987 Spyders sell in the high 60's right? This car brought less than $6-7K over a nicely equipped 987 Spyder. Again, if I'm the seller, this wouldn't leave me jumping for joy. With all due respect to our 987 Spyder friends, I think most would agree that there is -- or should be -- more than a $7K price spread between a 3-year old 981 Spyder and a 6-7 year old 987, and yet that wasn't the case here.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little battered and bruised if I'm the seller. He definitely paid the price (literally) for agreeing to be charged over sticker and having the audacity to drive the car on average 5,666 miles/year -- for shame!! -- so you can always say he brought it on himself I suppose.
It's crazy that averaging 5,666 miles/year is considered excessive, but that's the real world in which we live when it comes to Porsches specifically and collector cars in general. Just so many garage queens that never see the light of day. No way for even a sparingly used car to compete mileage-wise when obsessively non-driven examples are in abundance, if not the norm.
10-02-2018, 06:52 PM
#28
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I guess it's how you define "well sold." Recall this seller paid $103, it sold for $76, so he got back $27 less than what he paid. He thus took a 26% hit according to my trusty TI slide rule calculator on a car which, other than lacking LWBs, is not a horrible build and has been holding its value better than most. Not sure I would be feeling too cheery if I was the seller.
And then look at it this way: We've seen 987 Spyders sell in the high 60's right? This car brought less than $6-7K over a nicely equipped 987 Spyder. Again, if I'm the seller, this wouldn't leave me jumping for joy. With all due respect to our 987 Spyder friends, I think most would agree that there is -- or should be -- more than a $7K price spread between a 3-year old 981 Spyder and a 6-7 year old 987, and yet that wasn't the case here.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little battered and bruised if I'm the seller. He definitely paid the price (literally) for agreeing to be charged over sticker and having the audacity to drive the car on average 5,666 miles/year -- for shame!! -- so you can always say he brought it on himself I suppose.
It's crazy that averaging 5,666 miles/year is considered excessive, but that's the real world in which we live when it comes to Porsches specifically and collector cars in general. Just so many garage queens that never see the light of day. No way for even a sparingly used car to compete mileage-wise when obsessively non-driven examples are in abundance, if not the norm.
And then look at it this way: We've seen 987 Spyders sell in the high 60's right? This car brought less than $6-7K over a nicely equipped 987 Spyder. Again, if I'm the seller, this wouldn't leave me jumping for joy. With all due respect to our 987 Spyder friends, I think most would agree that there is -- or should be -- more than a $7K price spread between a 3-year old 981 Spyder and a 6-7 year old 987, and yet that wasn't the case here.
Yeah, I'm feeling a little battered and bruised if I'm the seller. He definitely paid the price (literally) for agreeing to be charged over sticker and having the audacity to drive the car on average 5,666 miles/year -- for shame!! -- so you can always say he brought it on himself I suppose.
It's crazy that averaging 5,666 miles/year is considered excessive, but that's the real world in which we live when it comes to Porsches specifically and collector cars in general. Just so many garage queens that never see the light of day. No way for even a sparingly used car to compete mileage-wise when obsessively non-driven examples are in abundance, if not the norm.
10-02-2018, 07:01 PM
#29
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I guess it's how you define "well sold." Recall this seller paid $103, it sold for $76, so he got back $27 less than what he paid. He thus took a 26% hit according to my trusty TI slide rule calculator on a car which, other than lacking LWBs, is not a horrible build and has been holding its value better than most. Not sure I would be feeling too cheery if I was the seller.
10-02-2018, 07:07 PM
#30
Well, MSRP was just shy of $91k. These seem to sell at about $10k to $15k under MSRP, so it's about average. Likely more than it would have brought as a trade in.
Probably a fair deal for both parties. Although adding the buyer's fee makes it less so. I guess we will see what it gets listed at next.
Probably a fair deal for both parties. Although adding the buyer's fee makes it less so. I guess we will see what it gets listed at next.