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Old 08-24-2018, 04:41 PM
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Price lowered on GT4 Clubpsort Motor ( Complete with no core needed ) Ready to install $17000
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Price lowered on GT4 Clubpsort Motor ( Complete with no core needed ) Ready to install $17000
I'm afraid to ask, but what is the price for a new GT4 motor of this caliber?
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Originally Posted by Charles Navarro
The high pressures and reduced lubricity go hand in hand.

I'm reading through several SAE whitepapers now.

For the record, there is no current ASTM test for gasoline lubricity and from what I've read thus far, the consumer is the guinea pig.
Charles, what do you recommend for people that store their cars for long period of time? Some of the old school mechanics recommend either storing the car completely dry OR filling the tank full of gas with a fuel stabilizers. Your thoughts?
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Have their been any bore score issues with the 981 2.7 engine?
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None that I’ve heard about and mines running strong after 90+ track days. I always warm the car up pretty good before thrashing it.
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
Charles, what do you recommend for people that store their cars for long period of time? Some of the old school mechanics recommend either storing the car completely dry OR filling the tank full of gas with a fuel stabilizers. Your thoughts?
In a modern car with plastic tank, on the low-ish side with fuel stabilizer. For winter storage we use Driven Storage Defender.

Fresh oil as well in the engine before hibernation.
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Driving every 1-2 weeks should be enough during the winter, right?
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Originally Posted by ToasterThief
Driving every 1-2 weeks should be enough during the winter, right?
That shouldn't be a problem as long as you get the engine to full temp and the oil sees over 210F to vapor off any moisture. Be sure to put fuel stabilizer in again if you have to refuel.
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Originally Posted by Charles Navarro
In a modern car with plastic tank, on the low-ish side with fuel stabilizer. For winter storage we use Driven Storage Defender.

Fresh oil as well in the engine before hibernation.
Thank you for that reply!
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Originally Posted by porsche3.2
Have their been any bore score issues with the 981 2.7 engine?
Seconding this. Any of these show up in the shop at Flat6?
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Have their been any bore score issues with the 981 2.7 engine?
Do fat puppies poot?
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How many of the 12k miles btw the two oil changes were track miles and in what run group?
What were the reasons behind the string of coil pack replacements?
Could timing changes introduced by the after-market tune in combination with the existing (undiagnosed) coil pack problem contributed to the failure?

Good luck with the resolution. I’d go with a used, low mile oem 981 3.4L, then keep it stock and change the oil more often, especially if tracked.
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Originally Posted by NuttyProfessor
I'm afraid to ask, but what is the price for a new GT4 motor of this caliber?
With no core its about $30k
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Originally Posted by hf1
How many of the 12k miles btw the two oil changes were track miles and in what run group?
What were the reasons behind the string of coil pack replacements?
Could timing changes introduced by the after-market tune in combination with the existing (undiagnosed) coil pack problem contributed to the failure?

Good luck with the resolution. I’d go with a used, low mile oem 981 3.4L, then keep it stock and change the oil more often, especially if tracked.
We change our oil every track weekend on our track / race cars. You have to consider oil changes as a cheap insurance policy. It will allow you to take a good look at whats going on in the motor prior to it becoming a large problem for a minimal cost of an oil service.

On catted cars, the coil pack failure has been a large issue for us due to all of the head in that area as well as Porsche not installing heat shields from the factory ( like on the 911 model ) . We change coils every 10 hour of use on our race GT4s in order to prevent failures on track.
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Originally Posted by RaceDevelopementCenter
We change our oil every track weekend on our track / race cars. You have to consider oil changes as a cheap insurance policy. It will allow you to take a good look at whats going on in the motor prior to it becoming a large problem for a minimal cost of an oil service.
Same here with my SPB race car engine and trans oil. In relation to the overall costs of racing and in terms of the $$$ value they protect, oil changes are an extremely cheap insurance policy. Even my back-roads 6gt3 gets the oil changed every Fall before winter hibernation regardless of miles.



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