$1300 for spark plug replacement??
#61
I'll take my method for not having to try and get a seized and broken spark plug out of recessed hole. I don't really care what Porsche says...
Your aluminum engine block is softer than the steel threads on the plug. If it seizes in the hole and the plug doesn't break trying to get it out guess which is one is likely to still have threads on it when it comes out.
Your aluminum engine block is softer than the steel threads on the plug. If it seizes in the hole and the plug doesn't break trying to get it out guess which is one is likely to still have threads on it when it comes out.
I suppose you lower the torque to compensate for the anti-seize acting like a lubricant.?
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M. Schneider (04-18-2020)
#62
Burning Brakes
http://www.jagrepair.com/images/Auto...1antisieze.pdf
Since Porsche specifically says not to use it I'd assume they know what they're talking about on their plugs and cars.
#65
Race Director
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redcayman07 (04-19-2020)
#66
Burning Brakes
#67
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Alright, let's all relax. Venom, you do have to expect some push back with this collective when you are advising folks to do something that is in direct contradiction to what the vehicle manufacturer AND a major spark plug manufacturer is advising. No one is saying you don’t know what you’re doing (well maybe Quad is goofing around in jest) -- they just disagree. Doctors used to perform bloodletting and lobotomies, but standards change. All is cool.
Apologies I was flip about the advice... certainly don't want a flame war breaking out or folks piling on.
Apologies I was flip about the advice... certainly don't want a flame war breaking out or folks piling on.
#68
Burning Brakes
Alright, let's all relax. Venom, you do have to expect some push back with this collective when you are advising folks to do something that is in direct contradiction to what the vehicle manufacturer AND a major spark plug manufacturer is advising. No one is saying you don’t know what you’re doing (well maybe Quad is goofing around in jest) -- they just disagree. Doctors used to perform bloodletting and lobotomies, but standards change. All is cool.
Apologies I was flip about the advice... certainly don't want a flame war breaking out or folks piling on.
Apologies I was flip about the advice... certainly don't want a flame war breaking out or folks piling on.
#69
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Just bought a very nice 1999 Ford Mustang Cobra with lots of track mods. 30k original miles. Car was still running amazing on OEM factory installed 1998 build date spark plugs.
I replaced only because of age and concerns longer term that corrosion would cause problems extracting from aluminum heads.
Most owners manuals talk about age and time. Not that sparkies go bad its the corrosion that can be costly.
I replaced only because of age and concerns longer term that corrosion would cause problems extracting from aluminum heads.
Most owners manuals talk about age and time. Not that sparkies go bad its the corrosion that can be costly.
#70
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I will say, my plugs were replaced on schedule at 4 years 26k miles, and they were really really tight/seized. I didn't put antiseize just because I plan to replace every 2 years from now on, but I'd consider otherwise.
#72
" I now realize how ridiculous the dealer price really is" What you are seeing is what I call the Porsche Premium. Parts and labor are inflated ad nauseum. You can find Bosch oem plug FGR5NQ1E04 at Autozone for $13 each.
IMHO: Many, but not all, Porsche and luxury car owners are fortunate and are able to not question the cost of the Porsche periodic maintenance i.e. parts and labor. I firmly believe that Porsche knowingly takes advantage of uninformed or uneducated(mechanically) owners who do not ask questions because they can afford to do so. WTS here's an example: I wanted to replace the driver's side door sill name plate because of a dent in the Cayman insignia. Dealer wanted $650. Suncoast out of Florida sent it to me for $70. I can hear you say "are you F'n kidding me?" I am not and, it took me 15 minutes to swap it out. Dare I say capitalism is predatory. Caveat emptor. Just sayin. )
IMHO: Many, but not all, Porsche and luxury car owners are fortunate and are able to not question the cost of the Porsche periodic maintenance i.e. parts and labor. I firmly believe that Porsche knowingly takes advantage of uninformed or uneducated(mechanically) owners who do not ask questions because they can afford to do so. WTS here's an example: I wanted to replace the driver's side door sill name plate because of a dent in the Cayman insignia. Dealer wanted $650. Suncoast out of Florida sent it to me for $70. I can hear you say "are you F'n kidding me?" I am not and, it took me 15 minutes to swap it out. Dare I say capitalism is predatory. Caveat emptor. Just sayin. )
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M. Schneider (04-18-2020)
#73
"Most spark plugs have a factory service interval of 100,000 miles, though some may be as much as 120,000 miles. Long-life platinum and iridium spark plugs will typically last up to 100,000 miles or longer provided the engine isn't using oil or doesn't spend a lot of time idling."
Gas+spark+air=combustion. It's all the same in every motor. Nothing special about Porsche. (I'm sure I"m gonna catch hell for this one LOL)
Gas+spark+air=combustion. It's all the same in every motor. Nothing special about Porsche. (I'm sure I"m gonna catch hell for this one LOL)
#75
I agree however, I’m only suggesting people don’t drink the dealer Kool-Aid and do their homework.Nobody likes to be taken to the cleaners.
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CaymanCarver (03-22-2020)