Track Pads that play nice with OEM pads
07-12-2018, 11:41 AM
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Track Pads that play nice with OEM pads
I would like to get a set of track pads for the occasional HPDE. I would prefer to just swap them out with the OEM ones for the event then go back. Some pad compounds don't play well together necessitating swapping out rotors for the track as well, but I would prefer to avoid that. What are some options?
07-12-2018, 11:59 AM
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Your plan has risks. Because the front calipers on 981s must be removed to change pads, you will be cycling the caliper mounting bolts frequently. This increases the risk of stripping the aluminum threads in the wheel carrier, which can cause unexpected and even catastrophic brake assembly failures. If you feel that you must switch back to street pads after every track event at least get caliper studs to replace the caliper bolts thus avoiding the thread stripping problem.
I believe there are pads that can be used on the track and street, I.e., intermediate between the two extremes. This might be an option. Just leave them on.
I believe there are pads that can be used on the track and street, I.e., intermediate between the two extremes. This might be an option. Just leave them on.
07-12-2018, 12:06 PM
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1 - 2 events per year.
07-12-2018, 01:46 PM
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Burning Brakes
Last January, I picked up an '11 Cayman S with 17k miles on the clock. It appeared to be mostly all street driven. This may sound a little crazy, but after doing a DE, the brakes really started to grab. Very possible that the pads were glazed from street applications and were finally "bedded in" on the track. Suggest you try some serious braking to see if this is the case. Comments anyone????
07-12-2018, 09:54 PM
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I would like to get a set of track pads for the occasional HPDE. I would prefer to just swap them out with the OEM ones for the event then go back. Some pad compounds don't play well together necessitating swapping out rotors for the track as well, but I would prefer to avoid that. What are some options?
With regards to stripping the aluminum threads due to repeated use: this is a well known problem and the simple, affordable and readily available solution is thread-in studs to replace the bolts. Easy-peasy.
Cheers,
DJM
07-13-2018, 07:32 AM
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Thank you! Where can I purchase the caliper studs?
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07-13-2018, 05:13 PM
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Pagid yellows are perfectly compatible with OEM pads; many people, myself included, have used them for years without issues with OEM pads. I am using PFCs now, happy with their braking ability and longevity thus far, but oh my, the squeal is terrible.
With regards to stripping the aluminum threads due to repeated use: this is a well known problem and the simple, affordable and readily available solution is thread-in studs to replace the bolts. Easy-peasy.
Cheers,
DJM
With regards to stripping the aluminum threads due to repeated use: this is a well known problem and the simple, affordable and readily available solution is thread-in studs to replace the bolts. Easy-peasy.
Cheers,
DJM
You are also going to want to buy a spare set of the OEM wear sensors. It's nearly impossible to get the original set out of the front pads and calipers without cutting or destroying them. You'll need something to plug back into the vehicle-side connector and zip-tie to the strut to avoid seeing the brake wear warning on the dash all the time.
07-13-2018, 05:30 PM
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For 1-2 events, just stick with your OEM pads. Yes, they'll wear much quicker on the track. You can buy replacement Texars really cheaply.
07-13-2018, 09:00 PM
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Regarding wear sensors, don’t bother with replacement sensors. Just learn how to inspect your pads for wear, which you should do anyway after each track day. My sensors have been disconnected and zip tied to the upright for four years.
07-16-2018, 09:36 AM
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My issue on the OEM pads is although I don't track much these days I've got quite a bit of track experience and can overpower the OEM pads relatively quickly in a session with track rubber.
On the Tarett Engineering stud kit, it appears to come in different lengths, what I am looking for?
On the Tarett Engineering stud kit, it appears to come in different lengths, what I am looking for?
07-16-2018, 11:09 AM
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http://www.tarett.com/images/BCSK.pdf
On my 981 GTS I bought the 77-85mm set for the fronts and 72mm set of the rears. Rears aren't necessary for replacing brake pads, but I figure I'll be replacing rotors every year or two as well and the stud conversion will help with those caliper removals.
On my 981 GTS I bought the 77-85mm set for the fronts and 72mm set of the rears. Rears aren't necessary for replacing brake pads, but I figure I'll be replacing rotors every year or two as well and the stud conversion will help with those caliper removals.