semtex

Does anyone have an idea of when these should be coming out? And are we expecting any big changes over the 2018 model?

I'm in the market to buy a 718 right now and just wondering if I should wait.

SpyderSenseOC

Most folks don't think there'll be drastic changes to the other levels of the 718's so you might as well strike now if the feeling's grabbing you.

Regarding a 718 GT4 or Spyder, if you are ok with spending an additional $25k or so in the event it's a naturally aspirated flat six (and would do so) you should wait. If not, no reason to delay.

Pointbye

manifold danger

^This. Unless you're holding out for a GT4/Spyder, go get one. The GTS's are available; they look amazing, albeit a bit expensive. You won't be disappointed even with the base model. I can't imagine any changes/additions significant enough to justify putting it off. Don't waste another day. GET ONE TOMORROW.

NOVA718

Shouldn't there be a refresh for MY20 or so? And the next full redesign in MY23?

MidEngineRules

The 982 (718) is the refresh. That basic design concept was introduced in 2013. Normal convention is 8 years to complete the life cycle. I'd expect a full redesign for 2021. Anything later than that is marketing suicide. That gives Porsche time to develop electric power options as well for the next gen. Plus, Porsche needs to keep the normal sequence of new model & revision introductions.

NOVA718

Thanks for the insight. I figured that the 718 was such a significant change it would reset the clock. So does Porsche ordinarily skip a year (meaning no MY20) when they redesign?

MidEngineRules

No and sometimes the redesign has come mid year meaning the outgoing model and new model share the same MY. While the 982 has significant changes directly or indirectly related to the power plant, it's still the same design aesthetic. I hope the 983 is a departure from the 981/982 so it stands on its own. The fender humps have been disappearing with each generation so I wonder if the 983 will have any at all?

NOVA718

It makes me wonder if there will be a MY20 982 at all. The arrival of the GT4 signals the end of the road for the 982, correct?

C.J. Ichiban

In the rare cases of a model type change crossover- they label one car a 2019.5 or a 2020.5 or something to delineate the two.

Porsche did this with " the new 911" which was a 2012.5 leaving 2012 Model Year cars as the last of the 997.2's

Selo

Don't really think that's the case. Pretty sure they built only 2012 911s, some of which were 997 variants, and some of which were 991s.

Buteo

Selo

Yeah, I was buying at the time, ended up with a 2012 997 GTS Cab. The 991s we're just coming out, and I think tje nas 991 was a 2012, but I sure don't remember seeing anything officially labled as a 2012.5. Then again, I've been wrong plenty of times before.

NOVA718

If redesign was imminent in MY20, wouldn't we be seeing pictures of the test mules already or insider rumors on what is coming our? I suspect there is some other thread devoted to this or Porsche is somehow better at keeping secrets than everyone else?