This car sat... what services would you do first...
02-08-2018, 11:20 AM
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This car sat... what services would you do first...
Hi Everybody,
I'm the proud owner of a new to me 2011 987.2 Boxster. The car was purchased from an auto superstore with 1900 Miles on it on New Years Eve. 1900 miles in almost seven years means that this car sat a lot and I was lucky to find a trickle charger already installed in it. I took the car to the dealer first thing and had them change the oil and also perform a post-purchase inspection. The only two issues that came up were that 1) the "major service" had not been performed. With 1900 miles it was only missed due to time and not mileage. And 2) It could use an alignment.
My question to the group is which other fluids/services would you perform to 'catch up' and avoid issues in a car that isn't presenting with problems. I'm planning on changing out the air filters and the serpentine belt on my own (I feel like I've got at least that level of mechanical competence). I plan on taking it to the dealer for an alignment (so that I don't run the tires down unevenly). What are your thoughts on brake fluid that sat for 7 years or transmission/differential fluid service? I've read that those fluids are good for 12 years or 50k miles.
The car is a daily driver so isn't being track raced or anything. It's warrantied by the place I purchased it for 50k miles or 5 years. It does look like it sat outside in Pennsylvania probably with a car cover on it. (Wheel crests were faded and lug nuts were rusted - both have been changed out). I've almost doubled the mileage in the month I've had it and I love it.
Thanks for any input.
Stephan
I'm the proud owner of a new to me 2011 987.2 Boxster. The car was purchased from an auto superstore with 1900 Miles on it on New Years Eve. 1900 miles in almost seven years means that this car sat a lot and I was lucky to find a trickle charger already installed in it. I took the car to the dealer first thing and had them change the oil and also perform a post-purchase inspection. The only two issues that came up were that 1) the "major service" had not been performed. With 1900 miles it was only missed due to time and not mileage. And 2) It could use an alignment.
My question to the group is which other fluids/services would you perform to 'catch up' and avoid issues in a car that isn't presenting with problems. I'm planning on changing out the air filters and the serpentine belt on my own (I feel like I've got at least that level of mechanical competence). I plan on taking it to the dealer for an alignment (so that I don't run the tires down unevenly). What are your thoughts on brake fluid that sat for 7 years or transmission/differential fluid service? I've read that those fluids are good for 12 years or 50k miles.
The car is a daily driver so isn't being track raced or anything. It's warrantied by the place I purchased it for 50k miles or 5 years. It does look like it sat outside in Pennsylvania probably with a car cover on it. (Wheel crests were faded and lug nuts were rusted - both have been changed out). I've almost doubled the mileage in the month I've had it and I love it.
Thanks for any input.
Stephan
02-08-2018, 11:34 AM
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Ask why alignment?
With 1900 miles in less something was hit like a curb or something....
Oil beens done so brake fluid too.
With 1900 miles in less something was hit like a curb or something....
Oil beens done so brake fluid too.
02-08-2018, 12:04 PM
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Just ZERO out the maintenance. Oil is done, and you plan to do the engine and cabin filters and serpentine belt (smart!). So do the:
Brake fluid
Manual gear lube 75W90
Plugs
Coolant flush
Replace water pump (optional, but you should consider)
For the next oil change, run a tank of fuel treated with Chevron Fuel System Cleaner With Techron
New battery?
Clean out all cabriolet top drain holes, and AC drain
Brake fluid
Manual gear lube 75W90
Plugs
Coolant flush
Replace water pump (optional, but you should consider)
For the next oil change, run a tank of fuel treated with Chevron Fuel System Cleaner With Techron
New battery?
Clean out all cabriolet top drain holes, and AC drain
02-08-2018, 01:38 PM
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Based upon time and miles I would do the following
- tires
- coolant
- gear lube
- spark plugs
- brake fluid
I would check the air filter but likely it’s perfectly clean and shouldn’t need a change, same with the cabin filter. I would also check the belts but they may be fine considering they haven’t been exposed to heat.
Most important recommendation, DRIVE IT!
- tires
- coolant
- gear lube
- spark plugs
- brake fluid
I would check the air filter but likely it’s perfectly clean and shouldn’t need a change, same with the cabin filter. I would also check the belts but they may be fine considering they haven’t been exposed to heat.
Most important recommendation, DRIVE IT!
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02-08-2018, 01:40 PM
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Wow. What a find.
I find it odd that the dealership did not recommend tires to be changed before the car left the service bay. Tires have a shelf life of what 3 - 5 years (someone please step in and add the correct data) from manufacture date.
You can find the manufacture date on the side wall - 2 digits for the week and 2 digits for the year. 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I find it odd that the dealership did not recommend tires to be changed before the car left the service bay. Tires have a shelf life of what 3 - 5 years (someone please step in and add the correct data) from manufacture date.
You can find the manufacture date on the side wall - 2 digits for the week and 2 digits for the year. 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02-08-2018, 02:23 PM
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02-08-2018, 02:35 PM
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Tires will start to harden at 3 years when heat cycled and by 5 years they lose a good amount of their traction. My original Bridgestone were physically perfect when I had them removed but they felt like ice skates, very slippery in the corners and during harder acceleration.
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02-08-2018, 06:38 PM
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One question to consider would be whether you are interested in forming a relationship with your local Porsche dealer. If you are, it may be worthwhile to consider having a "major" service (air filters, oil change and filter, spark plugs, brake fluid) done in order to establish a "maintenance baseline."
I recently did this for my 981 and am happy that I did.
My point of view is not so much that this is going to win you big discounts on parts or service down the road, but it may foster honesty with respect to the assessment of your car (i.e., not trying to sell you a bunch of bologna the way they might if you come in new off the street with some sort of repair issue) -- probably far more valuable.
I recently did this for my 981 and am happy that I did.
My point of view is not so much that this is going to win you big discounts on parts or service down the road, but it may foster honesty with respect to the assessment of your car (i.e., not trying to sell you a bunch of bologna the way they might if you come in new off the street with some sort of repair issue) -- probably far more valuable.
02-08-2018, 06:42 PM
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Super cold comment, but thank you, because 1. I didn't realize that tire condition was related to his death, and 2. a search led me to this interesting article:
http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/5189/the-truth-behind-what-caused-paul-walkers-fatal-crash
http://www.thedrive.com/opinion/5189/the-truth-behind-what-caused-paul-walkers-fatal-crash
02-08-2018, 07:18 PM
#13
Rennlist Member
Maintenance
I purchased my 10S with 4800 miles 1 year ago. It had annual oil changes and 2 year brake fluid change I did everything you mentioned except plugs. Concern was ability to remove w/o problem. Took 1 out on each bank--new condition. Retorqued and will wait to 15k. Also replaced tires and tpms due to time.
02-08-2018, 07:31 PM
#14
Rennlist Member
All fluids, tires, align, then drive it like you stole it. Only way to baseline fluids (coolant, brake, trans, oil) is to do them.
All other items should be okayed via inspection. Enjoy!
Dave
'05 987S
'92 968 SP3
'88 944 NA (gone)
All other items should be okayed via inspection. Enjoy!
Dave
'05 987S
'92 968 SP3
'88 944 NA (gone)
02-09-2018, 09:29 PM
#15
Thanks everybody for your input. In response to some comments....
Why alignment? - The steering wheel is 5% off center. I was initially concerned that this may reflect that the car had bumped a curb or something. I purchased the car from Carmax so don't know if it was on a car carrier or any of the history. I thought that alignment would be important to preserve tires - but with the number of folks telling me to change the tires I'm less concerned with the current set I guess. I haven't noticed any traction issues yet and it drives as if it was on rails. But noted and I'll work on replacing the current set.
Why not change all the fluids? Understand the sentiment here. I'd love to, but I'm not your stereotypical owner. I bought my Boxster from Carmax and don't have a lot of extra cash - so I'm trying to be frugal and not waste fluids that are perfectly ok and don't need changing. I'm a psychologist and not an engineer - but I also know that there are knowledgeable folks here - so I posted the initial question to the group with hopes of being educated. Mission accomplished - thank you everybody.
I thought that brake fluid had hydrophilic qualities and can go bad over time - so changing it makes sense to me. Plus I've got a pressure bleeder system so this is another easy one to do at home.
I'm still unsure if the transmission & differential fluid need to be changed. It's supposed to last 50k miles and I'm not sure if it has the time component to changing. BUT I have heard that the car needs an alignment after you change the transmission fluid so figured I might change it anyway.
Thanks everybody for your input. It's an amazing car and I'm really looking forward to spring and summer months with it.
Why alignment? - The steering wheel is 5% off center. I was initially concerned that this may reflect that the car had bumped a curb or something. I purchased the car from Carmax so don't know if it was on a car carrier or any of the history. I thought that alignment would be important to preserve tires - but with the number of folks telling me to change the tires I'm less concerned with the current set I guess. I haven't noticed any traction issues yet and it drives as if it was on rails. But noted and I'll work on replacing the current set.
Why not change all the fluids? Understand the sentiment here. I'd love to, but I'm not your stereotypical owner. I bought my Boxster from Carmax and don't have a lot of extra cash - so I'm trying to be frugal and not waste fluids that are perfectly ok and don't need changing. I'm a psychologist and not an engineer - but I also know that there are knowledgeable folks here - so I posted the initial question to the group with hopes of being educated. Mission accomplished - thank you everybody.
I thought that brake fluid had hydrophilic qualities and can go bad over time - so changing it makes sense to me. Plus I've got a pressure bleeder system so this is another easy one to do at home.
I'm still unsure if the transmission & differential fluid need to be changed. It's supposed to last 50k miles and I'm not sure if it has the time component to changing. BUT I have heard that the car needs an alignment after you change the transmission fluid so figured I might change it anyway.
Thanks everybody for your input. It's an amazing car and I'm really looking forward to spring and summer months with it.
