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I thought the new 718 GT4 was going to have a detuned version of the GT3 4.0.
That would be ideal. If a turbo I can't see the 4 banger. That would be idiotic. I'm starting to believe Porsche may really be considering ending the Boxster/Cayman platform, as Automobile magazine believes is a possibility. Something has to go to usher in a sports car mission E. As a swansong I can see Porsce producing a 4.0 Spyder/GT4. Why not? They will all sell and very quickly.
While anything is a possibility I think Porsche should be prepared for the next Spyder to be a total sales flop if they follow through with a 4 cylinder turbo engine. The Spyder was originally suppose to be a lightweight, focused sports car which places the driving experience and enjoyment above all else. Putting in a larger 4 cylinder which doesn’t sound as good and adds more weight is just another extension of the GTS with some visual changes.
I remain confident the next Spyder will be naturally aspirated but I do wonder what the future holds for the next model due 5 years from now.
No new news here from the latest spy shots, aside from the side intake scoops. We haven't heard the engine note yet to infer the engine type. But, we have had a ton of anecdotal evidence and talking points from various sources, including CEO Oliver Blume. So, those of you still questioning 'why NA', well, you are in for a surprise. Only question is, a detuned 4.0 from GT3 or a new one that could meet 2019 regs. GT3 engine is nearly new. In other words, extensively reworked. It is not about to die just after a very short life. However, GT3 engine is expensive. And, they need to maintain the cachet and mystique of GT3. Someone posted earlier that a new 4.0 engine is in the works. Seems perfectly plausible. With thoughtful design, they can stretch it beyond 982, for at least one more cycle of next gen regs. The regs were known years in advance; and, the product road map is defined equally ahead of time. In fact, they ought to plan 5 - 10 years in advance, at a minimum. At a personal level, I am contemplating what's the engine post-982 (for a GT4/Spyder)!
Boxster/Cayman platform is profitable. As long as they remain profitable above a certain threshold, Porsche absolutely will not kill it! These are class-leading bespoke models. There is a very strong following. As all sports cars embrace turbos, hybrid and finally electrics, Porsche will always find a way to differentiate from other models in the class. Either one needs to stop buying sports cars completely or find one that is better than others, with all other variables being at parity. So, Boxster/Cayman aren't going anywhere! They may not meet your expectations, though!
I highly doubt Porsche is going to spend that much R&D effort on a new NA motor. If it goes NA then I can see an uprated 3.8L cause that can chuck out 430 hp with the Power Kit or the GT3 motor albeit detuned.
Amazing based on the discussions how Porsche speculators are like those who own iphones. Porsche continues to temp us with the latest and greatest versions with tweaks and higher prices. Eventually it comes to an end and by the look of Boxster and Cayman sales and rarely seeing sports cars on the road anymore ( compared to the myriad of crossovers) I am certainly in Bob Lutz camp that times they are a changing. American muscle is continuing to outdo the Europeans and have let their engineers be engineers
I notice the PCCBs are the same 410mm diameter as the ones used on GT4 and GT3, which would be further confirmation of the full drivetrain/running gear from the GT4 coming to 718 Spyder. The 981 Spyder had brakes the same size as regular 911 S, I believe, even if PCCB.
With tires the same size as GT4 and brakes the same size as a 911 Turbo S or GT3RS, a 718 Spyder with optional PCCBs and Cup 2 tires, being the lightest Porsche on offer with the best brakes and tires on offer, will likely have the shortest stopping distances of any Porsche ever. 60-0mph in 80ft anyone?
Here’s hoping (still) that they don’t rename it “GT4 Spyder”. I feel that would both dilute the mistique of the name “Spyder” and also somewhat dilute the brand of the “GT4”.
Porsche, please just badge it “Spyder” and not “718 GT4 Boxster Spyder”
GT3 engine is nearly new. In other words, extensively reworked. It is not about to die just after a very short life.
I'm not so sure. P Dealers are reporting that ALL GT3s on order are officially 2018 models including those that are being delivered in December 2018, which would normally be a 2019 model. Does anyone know why it is important?
With tires the same size as GT4 and brakes the same size as a 911 Turbo S or GT3RS, a 718 Spyder with optional PCCBs and Cup 2 tires, being the lightest Porsche on offer with the best brakes and tires on offer, will likely have the shortest stopping distances of any Porsche ever. 60-0mph in 80ft anyone?
The limiting factor in braking is tire technology, not brakes. PCCBs stop no shorter than the regular old iron rotors.
I'm not so sure. P Dealers are reporting that ALL GT3s on order are officially 2018 models including those that are being delivered in December 2018, which would normally be a 2019 model. Does anyone know why it is important?
Yup, and I don't think it bodes well for those hoping the .2 GT3 motor is going to wind up in the 718 GT4/Spyder. My money is on both of the latter cars being turbocharged.
Yup, and I don't think it bodes well for those hoping the .2 GT3 motor is going to wind up in the 718 GT4/Spyder. My money is on both of the latter cars being turbocharged.
Agreed which will mean the next gen GT3 will be turbo charged. GT3 running gear on GT4/Spyder and turbocharged...dang I am torn between what I would do!
01-27-2018, 07:27 PM
