718 Spyder Engine Crazy
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My guess on MSRP $94k but everything will be alacart. Lets see who gets closest!
#18
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I think we are all just speculating. Why would Porsche throw a 4.0L 400-425HP N/A six cylinder engine into a Boxster? It would destroy 911 sales, IMO. If, however, they did just that, a reasonably equipped 718 Spyder would run at least $125K. For that kind of money, personally, I'd buy a Carrera S. Let's wait and see until Porsche announces how the car will be configured.
#19
Don't see the Spyder being priced above a 911, but ADM's will happen because dealers see the car is in demand. Dealers I know want to buy 981's to resale for a premium. Will be curious to see the final looks for grins .........I decided I will enjoy my 981, and my dealer GM talked me off the ledge to keep my RS and Spyder. Trading cars for the next just turns into craziness, but it will be nice to see more Spyder lovers get to purchase the car for sure.
#20
With the past two Spyders Porsche released them about 18 months before the end of the production run. The 987 Spyder was built for two model years but in reality the 2012 production was limited to a few months. I’m predicting they will release the next Spyder some time next year and build it for about a year with similar production numbers as the last two generations, 850 US and 2500 worldwide.
No chance they repeat the 987 top in a 400 HP car. They'll use the 981 top.
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Based upon the spy shots you’re likely right. Unfortunate IMHO, the 987 top is brilliant and weighs next to nothing. I know most don’t share that opinion but I think much of it is lack of experience with the top.
#22
Won't a 987 top blow off at high speed? Or is that an urban myth?
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Yes that’s correct at speeds above 126 mph. I guess if you’re tracking in inclement weather the 987 Spyder wouldn’t be ideal.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get much past 115 on the street and that’s typically only on a deserted two lane road with visibility for miles and no nearby streets.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get much past 115 on the street and that’s typically only on a deserted two lane road with visibility for miles and no nearby streets.
#24
If the engine is a detune 4.0, this Spyder will be epic on the open road and producing orgasmic sound with the top down. My guess is starting price $95,500 plus options. I am so glad my name is first on the list, can't wait for the dealer call next year.
#25
I think we are all just speculating. Why would Porsche throw a 4.0L 400-425HP N/A six cylinder engine into a Boxster? It would destroy 911 sales, IMO. If, however, they did just that, a reasonably equipped 718 Spyder would run at least $125K. For that kind of money, personally, I'd buy a Carrera S. Let's wait and see until Porsche announces how the car will be configured.
While I'm not holding my breath, I could easily see the 4L in the car for a number of reasons. First, it would get a bunch of buzz around the cars and it will SELL cars. Second, they're already producing it for the other GT cars, so there would be a cost advantage and a spares advantage. Third, because GT.
If it comes with the 4L, I'd expect base price around $100-105k, with most cars speccing out around $115-125k. I own a 981 and have a GT3T on the way, and I really hope they put the 4L in this car and call it the GT Spyder. Whatever motor, I'm guessing it's going to be in the 420hp range, because that would explain the wider GT4 wheels on the preproduction car and the rumor of switch to the Cup tires. My Spyder will spin up the rear wheels in sport plus pretty easily with just 375hp.
#26
Where do you read that? What I read was that it won't get the standard Boxster electric top, but rather the manual top, i.e., the 981 top. No way Porsche goes back to the 987 top. Clearly not given the spy shots of the preproduction car.
#27
Yes that’s correct at speeds above 126 mph. I guess if you’re tracking in inclement weather the 987 Spyder wouldn’t be ideal.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get much past 115 on the street and that’s typically only on a deserted two lane road with visibility for miles and no nearby streets.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get much past 115 on the street and that’s typically only on a deserted two lane road with visibility for miles and no nearby streets.
I guess its just mid games for me anyway as I've never had a place where I was comfortable driving the Spyder over 128
#28
Manual top for next Spyder?
UK. The key word they use is 'removable',
which technically only applies to the 987
Spyder and NOT the 981 Spyder top!
For those that didn't owned a 997 Boxster Spyder with that
unique 'Bimini' top, and so that you understand what we are
talking about, let me post the following:
Here is a video from Porsche that showed you how
to put down & up that top:
As I have stated in previous posts, the design of
that 987 Spyder top was an engineering marvel!
It consisted of a carbon fiber piece that attached
to the front & a single layer of canvas for the top.
The second piece was canvas with a thin backlight
of clear plastic. The 'Bimini' top could be placed
independently of the second back piece, allowing
for freer air flow & engine noise, while providing a
modicum of protection from the sun! The weight
of the entire top was only 13 lbs! For those of
you that know the early history of Porsche, the 987
Spyder top was much lighter than all the tops that
Porsche designed for its 550 & 'sporty' 356 models,
including the 1952 Roadster, 550 Spyder, 356 Speedster
& 356 Roadster!
Yes that’s correct at speeds above 126 mph.
I guess if you’re tracking in inclement weather
the 987 Spyder wouldn’t be ideal.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get
much past 115 on the street and that’s
typically only on a deserted two lane
road with visibility for miles and no
nearby streets.
I guess if you’re tracking in inclement weather
the 987 Spyder wouldn’t be ideal.
I must be getting old I guess, I don’t get
much past 115 on the street and that’s
typically only on a deserted two lane
road with visibility for miles and no
nearby streets.
discussing on this forum the speculation about
a 981 Spyder, I argued that the original 987 Spyder
manual top, while brilliant, was one of the main
reasons why the 987 Boxster Spyder was NOT
initially a sales hit at Porsche showrooms! My
first Rennlist serious 'research' thread back in
2010 was precisely on the large number of Boxster
Spyders in inventory that were 'unsold':
Number of Unsold Spyders in Dealer Inventory is Huge!
https://rennlist.com/forums/987-981-...y-is-huge.html
At the time I owned my 2012 Spyder, I had a
love-hate relationship with that top! I loved the
design & weight savings!
But being **** retentive, I hated taking the
time & effort necessary to put the top up &
down at every stop (e.g. restaurant)! But
now that I have larger garage space & much
sunnier weather in Scottsdale Arizona
(vs Carmel, CA) I would not mind if the next
Spyder I get - the MY2019 version - has an
all-manual 'Bimini' top! But my brain tells me
that PAG will select the same type of top that
was successfully used on the most recent
981 Spyder version!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Scottsdale
#30
Yeah, I think you're reading too much into the choice of words when they say 'tent top'. The spy shots clearly show the same top as the 981 and Porsche would be mental to go back to the 987 style top from a sales perspective. If they do go that route and go full GT with the car (4L, GT suspension), then it would seem they're targeting the next Spyder at an even smaller niche and making it a very different car than the prior versions. It will be interesting to see what the final product is. I just really, really hope that they do something more aggressive than just slapping a 718 GTS bumper on the front.