$60k to spend: best 981/987 platform?
#31
Rennlist Member
Beg/Borrow/Steal another $10-12K and get a 981 Cayman GTS???
#32
Nordschleife Master
After some research it appears over 17000 F360s were produced.
There were only 1500 987 Spyders produced as I understand with only 800 or so Stateside.
There were only 1500 987 Spyders produced as I understand with only 800 or so Stateside.
#33
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Ive shopped them many times and you will find the average miles per year WAY lower than a Porsche. They just simply sit in a garage more often.
I think they are a super cool car but I feel like 5 years ago the design still looked modern but now I feel like it has fallen off a bit where a 430 or a 458 is going to keep its appeal for longer.
Id still love to have a 360 since bang for buck on a Ferrari it is hard to beat. But I would look at every time I got into the Spyder driving it guilt free to work or the track!
#34
Nordschleife Master
Some good points. However, the 987 Spyder is a rare find both when shopping and especially in the wild. Those who know what they are appreciate them alot when seen. The Ferrari has more of a "wow" factor for the average Joe.
The 987 Spyder will be a collectible one day. The 360 not so much.
The 987 Spyder will be a collectible one day. The 360 not so much.
#35
Three Wheelin'
This is an interesting discussion. I just went through this, and ended up with a CPO 981 Boxster GTS for just under $60k so it can be done... can't imagine getting a better car at that price point- but I never really considered the 987 Spyder.
For me, this will be a car that gets driven, almost every day. I don't have a daily commute per se but I do drive for work 2-3 days a week on average... I have alternatives for snow or extreme cold but it will even get driven in winter. It will occasionally see a track or auto-x, but primarily an everyday sports car with ~10-12k miles racked up every year.
Not sure the 987 Spyder falls in that category. If I were looking for something to drive only on sunny weekends in the spring (i.e., 3-5k miles/yr), the 987 would have been the first choice. I haven't driven a 987 anything, but what kept me looking at 981s was the better overall interior and added creature comforts. Maybe the 987 Spyder is a better drive but I can't imagine it right now. This car is SO good as it is, plus I have bluetooth, a decent stereo, 18 way seats, etc.
Exclusivity is value in itself though so to each their own. I would probably concede a Spyder would turn my head quicker than a GTS.
Don't think either way would disappoint.
For me, this will be a car that gets driven, almost every day. I don't have a daily commute per se but I do drive for work 2-3 days a week on average... I have alternatives for snow or extreme cold but it will even get driven in winter. It will occasionally see a track or auto-x, but primarily an everyday sports car with ~10-12k miles racked up every year.
Not sure the 987 Spyder falls in that category. If I were looking for something to drive only on sunny weekends in the spring (i.e., 3-5k miles/yr), the 987 would have been the first choice. I haven't driven a 987 anything, but what kept me looking at 981s was the better overall interior and added creature comforts. Maybe the 987 Spyder is a better drive but I can't imagine it right now. This car is SO good as it is, plus I have bluetooth, a decent stereo, 18 way seats, etc.
Exclusivity is value in itself though so to each their own. I would probably concede a Spyder would turn my head quicker than a GTS.
Don't think either way would disappoint.
#36
I can personally vouch for the CR having owned it since 2013. I own both a 1996 993 C2 and the CR. I've debated in my mind and in my heart if I could only own one, which would I be forced to pick. Entirely different cars - each has its arguments for selection. I am finally coming to the answer...I would pick the CR for me, personally, at this stage in my life, and for how I drive my cars, and recognizing that I have had the 993-experience for 20 years. I love the 987 Spyder aesthetically more than the CR. I debated both back in 2013, but I am just not an open-air person; others are and, if so, its hard to pass on a 987 Spyder.
#37
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I can personally vouch for the CR having owned it since 2013. I own both a 1996 993 C2 and the CR. I've debated in my mind and in my heart if I could only own one, which would I be forced to pick. Entirely different cars - each has its arguments for selection. I am finally coming to the answer...I would pick the CR for me, personally, at this stage in my life, and for how I drive my cars, and recognizing that I have had the 993-experience for 20 years. I love the 987 Spyder aesthetically more than the CR. I debated both back in 2013, but I am just not an open-air person; others are and, if so, its hard to pass on a 987 Spyder.
Last edited by Marine Blue; 11-24-2017 at 05:27 PM.
#38
Racer
Ok here's my2c
the costs of owning and driving a car is not about puchase price but about depreciation. Spyder is expected to beat regular boxster at that point by far.
spyder vs spider article is very nice, i consider my spyder as a pocket supercar. Its rare, has the right looks and specs. Its great fun to drive and throw around on the street. In this aspect a more poweful car seems pointless.
the costs of owning and driving a car is not about puchase price but about depreciation. Spyder is expected to beat regular boxster at that point by far.
spyder vs spider article is very nice, i consider my spyder as a pocket supercar. Its rare, has the right looks and specs. Its great fun to drive and throw around on the street. In this aspect a more poweful car seems pointless.
#39
I’ve owned a few. The 981 is way ahead of the 987. Get a 981 GTS. The hydraulic steering is excellent but a bit overrated in comparison to the EPAS.
by the way, Spring for the 981 Spyder if you can. It’s really that good. Worst decision I ever made was selling mine.
by the way, Spring for the 981 Spyder if you can. It’s really that good. Worst decision I ever made was selling mine.
#40
Nordschleife Master
No doubt the 981 platform is way ahead of the 987. However, the basic analogue nature of the 987 Spyder is part of it’s allure and charm. Still a very capable and fun car.
#42
I've owned a 987.1 Cayman S, a 987.2 Cayman S and now a 981 Boxster S. For what I'm looking for in a sports car, the Boxster S is the right choice. My car:
2013 Boxster S. CPO
13,xxx miles
PTV
Sport Exhaust
PASM
PDK
MSRP $88k+
I paid $47k for it a few months ago from a local Porsche dealer. If you are looking for a car that is a hoot to drive and look at with improved refinement across the board from its predecessor, I can't think of a better choice than a 2013/14 BS. Scour the country and find a nicely optioned one and it'll probably get you behind the wheel for 10k under your budget. It will continue to depreciate, but at a much slower clip than a newer 981 or 718 will.
Alternatively, as others have stated, you can likely get yourself into a BGTS for right at or a little above your 60k budget.
The 987 Spyder is an awesome car, but it serves a different purpose. It's a raw driving experience. The 981 will blow it away in so many ways except for pure driving engagement. The Spyder is the pinnacle of the 987 platform. If you want the most engaging car you can afford (and don't care about practicality, luxury, modern technology etc.)look at Spyders. If you want the best package of refinement, performance, looks and sound go 981 S/GTS.
2013 Boxster S. CPO
13,xxx miles
PTV
Sport Exhaust
PASM
PDK
MSRP $88k+
I paid $47k for it a few months ago from a local Porsche dealer. If you are looking for a car that is a hoot to drive and look at with improved refinement across the board from its predecessor, I can't think of a better choice than a 2013/14 BS. Scour the country and find a nicely optioned one and it'll probably get you behind the wheel for 10k under your budget. It will continue to depreciate, but at a much slower clip than a newer 981 or 718 will.
Alternatively, as others have stated, you can likely get yourself into a BGTS for right at or a little above your 60k budget.
The 987 Spyder is an awesome car, but it serves a different purpose. It's a raw driving experience. The 981 will blow it away in so many ways except for pure driving engagement. The Spyder is the pinnacle of the 987 platform. If you want the most engaging car you can afford (and don't care about practicality, luxury, modern technology etc.)look at Spyders. If you want the best package of refinement, performance, looks and sound go 981 S/GTS.
#43
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The 987 Spyder is an awesome car, but it serves a different purpose. It's a raw driving experience. The 981 will blow it away in so many ways except for pure driving engagement. The Spyder is the pinnacle of the 987 platform. If you want the most engaging car you can afford (and don't care about practicality, luxury, modern technology etc.)look at Spyders. If you want the best package of refinement, performance, looks and sound go 981 S/GTS.