New Jaguar Turbo-4 F-Type
02-19-2018, 04:36 PM
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MotorTrend - First Review
MotorTrend review of the 4-cylinder F-Type:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/jagua...A19A433AF7BCC0
"While the rest of the F-Type’s 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 and 5.0-liter supercharged V-8 engines produce between 340 and 575 horsepower, the rating for this new Ingenium 2.0-liter turbo-four stands at an impressive 296 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. The Mercedes-Benz SLC 300’s 2.0-liter turbo-four makes just 241 hp/273 lb-ft, but the Porsche 718 duo’s 2.0-liter turbo-four ups it to 300 hp/280 lb-ft. So the Jag is definitely in the game here."
"The new F-Type also showed an advantage on the skidpad, averaging 0.95g lateral acceleration to the S’ 0.90g. Impressive. Still, at 3,601 pounds, the aluminum-bodied 2.0-liter F-Type is no lightweight. A similarly powered 718 Cayman (3,140 pounds as-tested) undercut this Jaguar by an unbelievable 461 pounds, plus it dispatched our figure-eight in a scant 23.7 seconds; an enormous 1.7-second difference."
"The new F-Type accelerated from 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds on its way to a quarter mile in 14.1 seconds at 99.7 mph. That’s about a second behind the aforementioned F-Type S (rebranded “R-Dynamic” for 2018, by the way), and more than a second behind that same, pesky Cayman with its 4.1-second 0-60 time and 12.5-second 111.2-mph quarter mile."
And, of course, what review of a 4-cylinder turbo would not be complete without comments about engine sound:
"There’s still a sense of anticipation when pressing the large starter button, but what’s missing is the engine erupting when it fires—like the V-6 and V-8 F-Types do. Those F-Types are notorious for their bellowing, barking, and snarling engines. It’s practically their calling card, which is why it’s so disheartening that the four-cylinder’s sound is completely disappointing most of the time. Start the Jag and you hear the I-4’s 2,900-psi fuel injection system and valvetrain ticking and clattering away like a diesel. It sounds mechanical, but not in the good way. You are left wanting that aural feedback, unless it’s at wide-open throttle (with the standard, active sport exhaust open), or just after abruptly lifting off the throttle, when the exhaust crackles in overrun. Sorry, but this engine doesn’t sound sporting at all. We can think of several turbo-fours that sound far better, including that of our 2018 Car of the Year, the Alfa Romeo Giulia."
Notwithstanding its many drawbacks, corpulence being the most offensive, I have to say that I am visually smitten with Callum's handiwork. For me personally, the beauty of the F-Type makes it easier to overlook its shortcomings. With a body like that, much can be forgiven!
If I was a few years older and in the market for less of a driver's car and more of a GT, an F-Type with MT in one of its variations might be on my list of candidates based primarily, and admittedly, on looks. Callum nailed it IMO.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/jagua...A19A433AF7BCC0
"While the rest of the F-Type’s 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 and 5.0-liter supercharged V-8 engines produce between 340 and 575 horsepower, the rating for this new Ingenium 2.0-liter turbo-four stands at an impressive 296 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. The Mercedes-Benz SLC 300’s 2.0-liter turbo-four makes just 241 hp/273 lb-ft, but the Porsche 718 duo’s 2.0-liter turbo-four ups it to 300 hp/280 lb-ft. So the Jag is definitely in the game here."
"The new F-Type also showed an advantage on the skidpad, averaging 0.95g lateral acceleration to the S’ 0.90g. Impressive. Still, at 3,601 pounds, the aluminum-bodied 2.0-liter F-Type is no lightweight. A similarly powered 718 Cayman (3,140 pounds as-tested) undercut this Jaguar by an unbelievable 461 pounds, plus it dispatched our figure-eight in a scant 23.7 seconds; an enormous 1.7-second difference."
"The new F-Type accelerated from 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds on its way to a quarter mile in 14.1 seconds at 99.7 mph. That’s about a second behind the aforementioned F-Type S (rebranded “R-Dynamic” for 2018, by the way), and more than a second behind that same, pesky Cayman with its 4.1-second 0-60 time and 12.5-second 111.2-mph quarter mile."
And, of course, what review of a 4-cylinder turbo would not be complete without comments about engine sound:
"There’s still a sense of anticipation when pressing the large starter button, but what’s missing is the engine erupting when it fires—like the V-6 and V-8 F-Types do. Those F-Types are notorious for their bellowing, barking, and snarling engines. It’s practically their calling card, which is why it’s so disheartening that the four-cylinder’s sound is completely disappointing most of the time. Start the Jag and you hear the I-4’s 2,900-psi fuel injection system and valvetrain ticking and clattering away like a diesel. It sounds mechanical, but not in the good way. You are left wanting that aural feedback, unless it’s at wide-open throttle (with the standard, active sport exhaust open), or just after abruptly lifting off the throttle, when the exhaust crackles in overrun. Sorry, but this engine doesn’t sound sporting at all. We can think of several turbo-fours that sound far better, including that of our 2018 Car of the Year, the Alfa Romeo Giulia."
Notwithstanding its many drawbacks, corpulence being the most offensive, I have to say that I am visually smitten with Callum's handiwork. For me personally, the beauty of the F-Type makes it easier to overlook its shortcomings. With a body like that, much can be forgiven!
If I was a few years older and in the market for less of a driver's car and more of a GT, an F-Type with MT in one of its variations might be on my list of candidates based primarily, and admittedly, on looks. Callum nailed it IMO.
02-19-2018, 04:55 PM
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The F-Type is easily one of the most gorgeous cars I've ever seen (at *any* price).
I thought very long and very hard about getting an F-Type over a Boxster/Cayman. As much as I love my BGTS I swoon and question my decision every time I see an F-Type coupe on the road.
What swayed me in the end was a couple of things:
1. Decided to go convertible, and the F-Type convertible has no more storage space than my Miata. The Boxster is far more practical as we are planning some long road trips.
2. Much like the Corvette, I was afraid the F-Type would bite me. To me the Boxster strikes a better (safer) balance between power and neutral handling.
I thought very long and very hard about getting an F-Type over a Boxster/Cayman. As much as I love my BGTS I swoon and question my decision every time I see an F-Type coupe on the road.
What swayed me in the end was a couple of things:
1. Decided to go convertible, and the F-Type convertible has no more storage space than my Miata. The Boxster is far more practical as we are planning some long road trips.
2. Much like the Corvette, I was afraid the F-Type would bite me. To me the Boxster strikes a better (safer) balance between power and neutral handling.
02-19-2018, 05:36 PM
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Which motor would you select? Not bought into 4 cylinders for sport/ luxury car.
02-19-2018, 06:04 PM
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A MT would be essential for me so I believe, based on memory, that the MT is only offered in the two supercharged V6 models with 340 and 380 hp. I don't believe it is available in the V8 offerings, but someone correct me. I've heard the V6 (luscious) and a friend just picked up last week the one-year only 400 Sport V6 model with 400 hp that slots in above the two "lower" V6 offerings (but I don't believe the 400 comes with MT).
02-20-2018, 09:29 AM
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Have to eat my words. My original posting from four months ago is so....last year. Since then, lots more ear-time on the 718, starting to really warm up to it (curse you, Porsche). Wasting hours on the 3D configurator. Base Cayman, or Cayman GTS? Base...GTS...Base...GTS. Curse you, Porsche.
02-20-2018, 10:30 AM
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Have to eat my words. My original posting from four months ago is so....last year. Since then, lots more ear-time on the 718, starting to really warm up to it (curse you, Porsche). Wasting hours on the 3D configurator. Base Cayman, or Cayman GTS? Base...GTS...Base...GTS. Curse you, Porsche.
02-20-2018, 10:31 AM
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The new F type is gorgeous regardless of engine, but it doesn't sound that great on the Grand Tour IMO. Tradeoffs.
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02-20-2018, 10:56 AM
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I agree. Though it’s performance is also not as good as other options. I’d rather just get a slightly used V8 or V6 though for sounds and looks only. Brave new world for the 4, I’m even leaning towards a 718 versus a 4C.
02-20-2018, 12:52 PM
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The F-Type is easily one of the most gorgeous cars I've ever seen (at *any* price).
I thought very long and very hard about getting an F-Type over a Boxster/Cayman. As much as I love my BGTS I swoon and question my decision every time I see an F-Type coupe on the road.
What swayed me in the end was a couple of things:
1. Decided to go convertible, and the F-Type convertible has no more storage space than my Miata. The Boxster is far more practical as we are planning some long road trips.
2. Much like the Corvette, I was afraid the F-Type would bite me. To me the Boxster strikes a better (safer) balance between power and neutral handling.
I thought very long and very hard about getting an F-Type over a Boxster/Cayman. As much as I love my BGTS I swoon and question my decision every time I see an F-Type coupe on the road.
What swayed me in the end was a couple of things:
1. Decided to go convertible, and the F-Type convertible has no more storage space than my Miata. The Boxster is far more practical as we are planning some long road trips.
2. Much like the Corvette, I was afraid the F-Type would bite me. To me the Boxster strikes a better (safer) balance between power and neutral handling.
04-19-2018, 04:50 PM
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MotorTrend review of the 4-cylinder F-Type:
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/jaguar/f-type/2018/2018-jaguar-f-type-coupe-turbo-four-first-test-review/?wc_mid=4035:11038&wc_rid=4035:29075956&_wcsid=7CC8A9E721FFB4C944A2F56AA F61793927A19A433AF7BCC0
"While the rest of the F-Type’s 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 and 5.0-liter supercharged V-8 engines produce between 340 and 575 horsepower, the rating for this new Ingenium 2.0-liter turbo-four stands at an impressive 296 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. The Mercedes-Benz SLC 300’s 2.0-liter turbo-four makes just 241 hp/273 lb-ft, but the Porsche 718 duo’s 2.0-liter turbo-four ups it to 300 hp/280 lb-ft. So the Jag is definitely in the game here."
"The new F-Type also showed an advantage on the skidpad, averaging 0.95g lateral acceleration to the S’ 0.90g. Impressive. Still, at 3,601 pounds, the aluminum-bodied 2.0-liter F-Type is no lightweight. A similarly powered 718 Cayman (3,140 pounds as-tested) undercut this Jaguar by an unbelievable 461 pounds, plus it dispatched our figure-eight in a scant 23.7 seconds; an enormous 1.7-second difference."
"The new F-Type accelerated from 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds on its way to a quarter mile in 14.1 seconds at 99.7 mph. That’s about a second behind the aforementioned F-Type S (rebranded “R-Dynamic” for 2018, by the way), and more than a second behind that same, pesky Cayman with its 4.1-second 0-60 time and 12.5-second 111.2-mph quarter mile."
And, of course, what review of a 4-cylinder turbo would not be complete without comments about engine sound:
"There’s still a sense of anticipation when pressing the large starter button, but what’s missing is the engine erupting when it fires—like the V-6 and V-8 F-Types do. Those F-Types are notorious for their bellowing, barking, and snarling engines. It’s practically their calling card, which is why it’s so disheartening that the four-cylinder’s sound is completely disappointing most of the time. Start the Jag and you hear the I-4’s 2,900-psi fuel injection system and valvetrain ticking and clattering away like a diesel. It sounds mechanical, but not in the good way. You are left wanting that aural feedback, unless it’s at wide-open throttle (with the standard, active sport exhaust open), or just after abruptly lifting off the throttle, when the exhaust crackles in overrun. Sorry, but this engine doesn’t sound sporting at all. We can think of several turbo-fours that sound far better, including that of our 2018 Car of the Year, the Alfa Romeo Giulia."
Notwithstanding its many drawbacks, corpulence being the most offensive, I have to say that I am visually smitten with Callum's handiwork. For me personally, the beauty of the F-Type makes it easier to overlook its shortcomings. With a body like that, much can be forgiven! If I was a few years older and in the market for less of a driver's car and more of a GT, an F-Type with MT in one of its variations might be on my list of candidates based primarily, and admittedly, on looks. Callum nailed it IMO.
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/jaguar/f-type/2018/2018-jaguar-f-type-coupe-turbo-four-first-test-review/?wc_mid=4035:11038&wc_rid=4035:29075956&_wcsid=7CC8A9E721FFB4C944A2F56AA F61793927A19A433AF7BCC0
"While the rest of the F-Type’s 3.0-liter supercharged V-6 and 5.0-liter supercharged V-8 engines produce between 340 and 575 horsepower, the rating for this new Ingenium 2.0-liter turbo-four stands at an impressive 296 horsepower and 295 lb-ft of torque. The Mercedes-Benz SLC 300’s 2.0-liter turbo-four makes just 241 hp/273 lb-ft, but the Porsche 718 duo’s 2.0-liter turbo-four ups it to 300 hp/280 lb-ft. So the Jag is definitely in the game here."
"The new F-Type also showed an advantage on the skidpad, averaging 0.95g lateral acceleration to the S’ 0.90g. Impressive. Still, at 3,601 pounds, the aluminum-bodied 2.0-liter F-Type is no lightweight. A similarly powered 718 Cayman (3,140 pounds as-tested) undercut this Jaguar by an unbelievable 461 pounds, plus it dispatched our figure-eight in a scant 23.7 seconds; an enormous 1.7-second difference."
"The new F-Type accelerated from 0-60 mph in 5.4 seconds on its way to a quarter mile in 14.1 seconds at 99.7 mph. That’s about a second behind the aforementioned F-Type S (rebranded “R-Dynamic” for 2018, by the way), and more than a second behind that same, pesky Cayman with its 4.1-second 0-60 time and 12.5-second 111.2-mph quarter mile."
And, of course, what review of a 4-cylinder turbo would not be complete without comments about engine sound:
"There’s still a sense of anticipation when pressing the large starter button, but what’s missing is the engine erupting when it fires—like the V-6 and V-8 F-Types do. Those F-Types are notorious for their bellowing, barking, and snarling engines. It’s practically their calling card, which is why it’s so disheartening that the four-cylinder’s sound is completely disappointing most of the time. Start the Jag and you hear the I-4’s 2,900-psi fuel injection system and valvetrain ticking and clattering away like a diesel. It sounds mechanical, but not in the good way. You are left wanting that aural feedback, unless it’s at wide-open throttle (with the standard, active sport exhaust open), or just after abruptly lifting off the throttle, when the exhaust crackles in overrun. Sorry, but this engine doesn’t sound sporting at all. We can think of several turbo-fours that sound far better, including that of our 2018 Car of the Year, the Alfa Romeo Giulia."
Notwithstanding its many drawbacks, corpulence being the most offensive, I have to say that I am visually smitten with Callum's handiwork. For me personally, the beauty of the F-Type makes it easier to overlook its shortcomings. With a body like that, much can be forgiven!
If I was a few years older and in the market for less of a driver's car and more of a GT, an F-Type with MT in one of its variations might be on my list of candidates based primarily, and admittedly, on looks. Callum nailed it IMO.
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04-19-2018, 04:55 PM
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I am not digging that single exhaust at all. Might be the first time I've disliked something relating to the aesthetics of an F Type.
04-19-2018, 05:07 PM
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It's an acquired taste for sure, it is however less prominent in real life and I expect a double exhaust version within the coming months. i've spoken with one German company who are developping it at the moment.
04-19-2018, 05:11 PM
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Up until the F-Type was introduced my wife agreed that the 987 Spyder is one of the best looking cars. Now she points out the F-Type every time we pass one, she’s smitten with it. She sends me pics when she sees one. It is definitely one of the best designs out there.
04-19-2018, 05:30 PM
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Up until the F-Type was introduced my wife agreed that the 987 Spyder is one of the best looking cars. Now she points out the F-Type every time we pass one, she’s smitten with it. She sends me pics when she sees one. It is definitely one of the best designs out there.
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